On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 19:21 -0800, Maluvia wrote: > David, you had me all the way up to this point: > > >And argue with people like Paul Davis on *this very subject* is bound > >to failure, if not rude. > > I'm sorry, but I just can't go along with this concept that some people are > off limits to argument, debate, disagreement, criticism or questioning. > I agree. Anyway, Paul's not off-limits to arguing - we argue with him all the time. I'm sure he loves it ;-) > Perhaps there's some male heirarchical conditioning behind such a notion, > but I can't accept it. > If it was not 'rude' or 'disrespectful' to argue with or insult me, then it > is not rude to argue with Paul, or anyone else on this list. > As far as I am concerned, every single person on this list is an > intelligent, accomplished person in their own right, in their own fields of > endeavor, and deserving of equal respect - and equal scrutiny. > I also think everyone here is making useful contributions in their own way > to this community. > > It has not escaped my notice that certain individuals in this community are > talked to, and about, with what borders almost on reverence and awe > (sounding religious again ;) ) - and it makes me squirrelly, and rather > embarassed. I do have to say that, after having programmed professionally for about 30 years, Paul is damn good! Probably on the same level as some of the higher end kernel people (and certainly way the hell better than me ;-) > If part of the community consensus here is that certain people are above > others - for whatever reason - and that they are beyond questioning, I can > no more fit in here than I did in academia. > I hope that that is not really the case. > Nope, you can yell at anyone here ;-) The nice thing here is that most people can handle it. If you want to get seriously slapped down try posting on prosoundweb (I don't even attempt it ;-) -- Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner The Fuzzy Dice http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html "As we enjoy great advantages from the invention of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin, on declining patents offered by the governor of Pennsylvania for his "Pennsylvania Fireplace", c. 1744