Hi. The latest updates on my Debian Sarge/Etch (on the testing repo) are wanting to remove. Cheesetracker (libsigc++ deps) , Wavemixer, and Seq24. Now I use, or more precisely, am trying to use Cheesetracker, so don't want to lose it. All the upgrades appear to be coming from. deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main I tried putting this Debian Sarge/Etch install onto the security testing repo, but it don't want to play. I still have two basic Sarge installs, also on the same security repo, but aptitude dist-upgrade is only doing minimal upgrades, and certainly not wanting to remove apps. The ouput of aptitude dist-upgrade is below, (also tried aptitude upgrade, as sometimes they differ) . Any comments would be welcome. Nigel. Reading task descriptions... Done Get:1 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages [130kB] Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release Get:2 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Release [110B] Fetched 130kB in 31s (4172B/s) Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done debian:/home/djmons# aptitude dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be automatically installed: ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0 libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24 wavemixer The following packages have been kept back: cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters foomatic-gui gimp-help-common gimp-help-en hpijs libcupsimage2 python-foomatic python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gtk2 python2.3-glade2 python2.3-gtk2 python2.3-pyorbit x-window-system-core The following NEW packages will be installed: ca-certificates libaspell15c2 libedit2 libgksuui1.0-1 libgtkspell0 libnautilus-burn1 libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libssl0.9.8 openssh-client openssh-server python-gnome2-extras python2.3-gnome2-extras The following packages will be REMOVED: cheesetracker libgksuui1.0-0 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libsigc++-1.2-5c102 seq24 wavemixer The following packages will be upgraded: apt apt-utils aptitude bash bind9-host bsdgames bsdutils console-common console-tools cpp cxref debianutils desktop-base dnsutils edict fdutils fftw3 finger fingerd freeglut3 g++ gcc gksu gnome-session gnome-utils info language-env libacl1 libattr1 libbind9-0 libconsole libcurl3 libdns20 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libglib2.0-dev libgpgme11 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tree-perl libisc9 libisccc0 libisccfg1 liblwres1 libnautilus-extension1 libnews-nntpclient-perl libnspr4 libnss3 liboaf0 liboil0.3 liborbit2 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpcap0.8 libpcre3 libpcre3-dev libperl5.8 libpisock8 libsensors3 libsigc++-1.2-dev libssl-dev libssl0.9.7 libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl libtiff-tools libtiff4 libusb-0.1-4 libvte-common libvte4 lm-sensors-2.4.27-2-386 login menu module-init-tools mount mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm nautilus nautilus-data nmap oaf openssl passwd perl perl-base perl-modules portmap python-extclass python2.3-extclass python2.3-gnome2 ssh synaptic telnet telnetd tetex-base tetex-doc texinfo util-linux wavesurfer wget xcdroast xmms xpdf xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed: aptitude-doc-en dbus-1-utils deborphan libgnome2-perl lm-sensors myspell-en-us nautilus-cd-burner perl-doc unzip x-ttcidfont-conf xli xloadimage 111 packages upgraded, 12 newly installed, 6 to remove and 21 not upgraded. Need to get 118MB/118MB of archives. After unpacking 2107kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] NO. definately NO.