Hi jp, Shayne, Jorge, Jesse the Jam Room is actually about sharing and collaborating and improvising, right? Much more a social act than a technical one. I guess it's not the application that matters but the get together, the surprises in that, the laughter and joy. We could do this with ftp and irc, right? So I think nothing is gonna happen just because of one app. It's going to happen because we want to make music together. If we want that. Accessible and beautiful instruments like Freewheeling and SooperLooper make this easier, in the best case very direct. I think the ideas of previewing a jam room, selecting loops from a pool of contributions, the musical quantum field, Jesse's notion of the metadata etc. are fascinating. Hm, endless possibilities. I used to think "'endless' is good". Nowadays I think "'endless' is difficult". Playing with Ardour and with Freewheeling for some weeks now I've come to appreciate the limitations of those instruments. It makes you "commit" (the lack of MIDI tracks in Ardour that is) instead of deciding later. It makes you get into downbeat tapping and into getting it right and good :) Ardour changed my music a lot. And Freewheeling has become a constant source of joy and fun. Ehm, all I'm trying to say really is that if I was asked how complex and capable the Jam Room should be I'd be happy with a very simple infrastructure to shake out one big net jam at a time -- as a starting point. We can go places from there on, can't we? Can't wait ... Be good wherever you are, Wolfgang