Hi Eric, --- Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <rzewnickie@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 09:18:21AM -0700, Russell > Hanaghan wrote: > > On Sunday 12 September 2004 05:24 am, R Parker > wrote: > > > Hi Russell, > > The item about Ardour you mention concerns > me...primarily because I don't wish > > to violate any of these type of rules / laws/ > policies; Is that really > > applicable here? My intent is to describe how I > personally used this > > application to create an Effects box...NOt "how > one should use Ardour in the > > intended, technically correct manner intended by > the Author(s)." But again, I > > do not wish to piss anyone off here...that would > be kinda counter > > productive! :) Perhaps Paul can offer his > thoughts?? > > > As I understand it, Paul has been working on Ardour > more than full time > for at least the past 4+ years ... > *on_his_own_funding*! Along the way > he has made huge contributions to the linux audio > code base in the form > of extensive work on jackd, alsa drivers and various > libraries. Not to > mention the fact that his participation in the > community as a very > experienced and knowledgable programmer increases > everyone's knowledge > base. Exactly! He's made a significant contribution and that makes it very easy to understand his wish to control the documentation for Ardour. Perhaps one way to do > this would be to > write up docs on my use case, not publish it myself, Not publishing them ourselves is important. You obviously appreciate his position. > but instead give it > to him to include in his docs as an example to put > in the appendix or > something. Maybe you could do the same with your > section on your use of > ardour. I'm not sure if Paul would accept it, but it > can't hurt to offer > it to him. It might save you some work to ask him before you write anything. Before jackd was written, I had outlined and written many chapters for a book titled Professional Audio in Linux (PAIL). The book was designed around Ardour and I put a great deal of time and effort into the project. Before I could publish, Paul asked that nobody document Ardour. For various reasons it didn't bother me at all to have my efforts nullified; 1. Ardour is not my project, 2. I didn't have to finish this big assed book and could refocus my attention on using Ardour. I don't mean to speak for Paul Davis or anyone else. Especially when what I'm saying could discourage someone from making an appreciable contribution. I'm just trying to relay the message. > Anyway, the point is that your attitude of trying to > offer something > back to the community is a good one. We users who > are willing to do this > just have to find the ways of helping that fit the > needs of the > developers and other users. > > You've inspired me to get my butt back in gear and > do more to help than > I have been. > > > The "effects box" idea is a greater attractant Russell, I'm curious why you choose to use Ardour rather than Jack Rack for routing audio to effects. It seems to me that Jack Rack might be a better choice because it's designed to do what you need. I imagine there's more than one way to control levels into or from Jack Rack and there would be a way to create sends. Maybe I don't know exactly what you're doing. ron > IMHO because there are a great > > many musco's that have had some time messing on a > PC in some form or > > other...but unless they had the big bux...the > performance was not that great. > > They probably did not persist too much... > > Someone around here had made the statement that > "Turn that old 486 into a > > reverb 'cause it aint good for nothin > else!"...this is a valid concept in > > Linux...AND doable on a 486! It is beyond > capabilty and sense of reason in > > Winblows! Can't even run XP or 2000 on 486 much > less DAW software that uses > > RT DSP. If they learn how to do the fx thing, the > recording / messing / > > experimenting thing will come naturally and they > will have the hard work > > done. > > On this note, I have 25Mhz 486 w/12MB of RAM that > has served as my > firewall/router for 4.5 years. It's soon to be > replaced by a shinier, > newer, faster classic pentium 200MHz w/64MB of RAM. > Last night I was > thinking of how to keep it useful. I came up with > the idea of writing > some script that generates some kind of audio in > realtime continuously > to be streamed over the net. I'm thinking of trying > to get it to boot > over the network from an image on my file server and > run in ram ... or > maybe an NFS or other share. > > This should probably go in another thread, but does > anyone know what to > shoot for? How much realtime dsp can a box like this > reasonably handle? > Could it run hermes from a python ECI script with > ecasound controllers > controlling the parameters? > > Anyway, this is an interesting thread. Thanks > everyone. > > -Eric Rz. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail