On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM worik <root@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 27/04/21 7:30 pm, Peter P. wrote:
> * worik <root@xxxxxxxxx> [2021-04-27 09:23]:
>> Vaguely Linux Audio related
>>
>> Is Open Sound Control still a thing? Was it ever?
I realise I put a silly subject on my email, so I changed it.
I need to get a mixer, primarily for mixing live bands. At least
sixteen inputs, preferably more, into stereo or more channels.
No need for inserts or aux sends I suppose for your workflow. For my "live in the studio" video
workflow
for a trio, I record every channel with compression and effects, then
hand over the wav file to a mastering engineer. The Speck Xtramix V6
is new and has 20 stereo channels but is expensive and has no digital connectivity.
You can see my work in action here.
I would like to have a interface to it from a tablet and less
importantly I would like wider options for controlling it over some sort
of IP network (TCP/IP probably). There are a lot of nice products
available, but it is hard for me to tell if the software and protocols
are ones I can use from my own software. I feel a bit like a babe in
the woods!
I am price sensitive, and I am not the only decision maker. It is hard
to make non technical people see the danger in a piece of equipment
whose main control is a app on a iPad. I want to be using it in five
and fifteen years from now. We will look after it.
My problem is identifying hardware that meets what seem like peculiar
requirements to others. Decision criteria.
I suggest deciding what you want to accomplish with a mixer - Live sound or post production. A lot of what you are
asking about makes sense only in post, and often only a mastering engineer.
The background is we have a set of amplifiers we use for community gigs
here in Ōtepoti, New Zealand. The missing piece is a decent mixer.
In this thread there have been some interesting things, a bit
overwhelming...
* Dante
This is used to connect gear over long distances, other rooms etc - up
to 100 meters. It is a proprietary protocol that started about 20 years
ago.
* I am a beginner but I think MIDI and OSC are for different things
Some parts of MIDI can be accomplished by OSC, for example Midi
Machine Control of start/stop in Ardour can be also done with oscsend.
My uses of OSC are more for machine control, not for music note and
timing info and TBH I prefer control voltage instead of midi due to its
simplicity, flexibility and lack of latency.
My
primary motivation in Linux audio is automation during live
performances using LTC timestamps - but that is a rabbit hole I don't
recommend.
* LTC
LTC is the core of my workflow but only makes sense if you are
doing video. It's perhaps the oldest audio standard - invented in the
60's. It's simply an audio signal with square waves that defines a 24
hour period timestamp. It's well supported in open source. Budget gear
like Zoom have embraced it, so I feel I am on safe ground going
forward.
* MTC
LTC encoded as MIDI. Some people use it in post production for
overdubs. DAW's support it. The whole MPC drum machine line supports it
to varying degrees. The Tascam 16 mixer supports it.
* MMC
Some midi devices such as external sequencers require midi clock to start/stop, while instead most DAW's use MMC.
* OSC in JSON
Not sure who supports this together in open source besides the Behringer Wing. JSON is an open
format that largely superseded XML and is used over networks. OSC is
used over udp.
* "Rendering Engine" - Sara/DS100. Not sure what this is... Looks like
more than we need, opening up possibilities we have not thought of
Never heard of it.
* Monome Norns, PedalinoMini, Step Audio, Lawo,
You need to code in Lua to get the most out of Monome Norns, it's
more of an open source synth and effects engine. PedalinoMini is a DIY
project that combines OSC and midi. Step Audio is a pedal company that
sends most midi features - my fallback plan in case Linux audio hits a
snag for me. I am not familiar with Lawo.
Robert
Awesome!
Worik
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Aotearoa (New Zealand)
--
If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where?
So, here I stand, I can do no other
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