Re: The future of audio plugins ?

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:13:47 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:45:30 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:35:58PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> >> Faders and EQs are the most important tools during the complete
> >> mixing procedure. You can do a mix without any additional tool, but
> >> you can't without faders and EQs.  
> >
> >True. And depending on the type of music and how it was recorded
> >in the first place, the faders may be all you need on most tracks.

> Full ACK. But now I'm unsure what Jonetsu means by the word
> "placement" and I still don't understand what starting point settings
> Jonetsu is talking about.

For instance, up and down, as I wrote earlier today, has to do with
frequencies and their density.  Left/right is self-explanatory.
Front/back has to do with perception of the transients and a touch of
ER.
 
> However ...

> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:40:58 -0400, jonetsu wrote:
> >Since the beginning the context is not about a complete mix.

> >I wonder...
 
> ... my concerns are related to exactly this attitude. If the tool
> starts mixing, then why doesn't it finish the mix? 

Do you expect your Big Muff to spit out Jimi Hendrix licks ?

> Assuming it doesn't
> finish the mix, because it has got no idea how to do it, then I wonder
> how it could provide an unfinished mix, that should be useful to
> finish the mix.

Again, do you expect your guitar to play itself ?
 
> If EQs are not used at this stage of the mix, then I wonder what tools
> should be used. If e.g. only faders should get commands from an
> analysing tool, I wonder how it decides which track should get what
> level for the raw mix and what it should gain to make the work easier.

Frequency density and transient perception are affected by compression.

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