nobody taught ME all those big fancy words when *I* was an ado-adol-a - teenager ;) ;) seriously though. Thanks for this. Word from the street. I have a feeling that this is some of the more valuable info we could get. --------------------------------------------------------------- Houston Poetry Slam Team www.houstonpoetryslam.com NQuit Records www.nquit.com --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Bessman" <ninjadroid@xxxxxxx> To: <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: [linux-audio-user] That whole mp3 vs. ogg vs. wma vs. yomamma thing > The biggest internet music demographic, be it legal or not, is adolescent > kids in suburbia. As an adolescent kid in suburbia with 3 adolescent > siblings, I can tell you with confidence from experience in my house and > with friends that .mp3 is the king of internet music formats by at least > an order of magnitude. > > People in my realm get internet music from three types of locations, in > descending order of frequency: > > 1) P2P (mainly KaZaA) > 2) mp3.com et al > 3) Ripped CDs > > In all cases, mp3 is the lingua franca, the de facto standard. Formats > such as wma and ra are considered laughable, they sound so much worse > until the file size reaches gargantuan proportions. The only people using > such formats are 'Tools of the Man', so to speak, and as you can see from > the above list, none of the real music listeners give two craps about > them. Posting in ogg isn't that big a deal, winamp can play them and I'm > pretty sure the internal player in KaZaA can also. These kids aren't as > hesitant as most grownups either, if you tell them that "you need to > download and run X to use superior format Y" they'll do it. > > The problem, as I see it, is distribution. To take advantage of the big > daddy, P2P, people gotta know who you are and want your stuff in advance. > You can try using misleading filenames or info tags so that your stuff > gets accidentaly downloaded, but I personally just delete stuff like > that, so I wouldn't recommed it. You have a better chance of getting > heard by option 2, the music websites, if someone is doing genre > browsing, but then you're going to have to use mp3. As for CD ripping... > well, if that even becomes an option then we've already won IMHO. > > In my perfect world, everyone would use ogg or flac or some other equally > libre format. In order to help realize that goal, we need to gain > musical clout so that the kids look up to us, and then choose to > distribute solely in formats that we endorse. We gotta have that clout > first, however, and we aren't gonna get that without compromising. A > good solution, in my pea brain, is to setup an account with something > like mp3.com and post a few _good_ songs (the songs have to be _good_ or > else we're dead in the water). If you get the kid's attention, they'll > check out your personal artist page, from which you can link to your > homepage where they can get "even more and newer" music in the "vastly > superior and unrestrained" ogg format. The songwriting is going to be the > biggest factor, IMHO. Without kickin' tunes, nothing else matters. > Period. Get good songs, get them distributed, get popularity, get power, > establish ogg as the new lingua franca for the hip and rebellious music > community. > > Peace, > =Pete > -- > You can only run configure at the top level of the Ardour source tree. > You don't want to know why this is true. Don't try to work around it.