On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 15:46, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Hallo, > > Mark Knecht hat gesagt: // Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > >> And on the other hand, Linux based musicians who *want* their music to be > >>heard are cutting their nose off not making it extremely available through > >>mp3s. Frankly, independent of the perceived advantages of .ogg over mp3 > >>(open source, sounds better, no licensing issues or royalty payments) it's > >>just good business to make your product usable by more people. That leads to > >>good stuff. Forcing people to go to .ogg seems like it's backwards to the > >>open source movement. > > > > > > I disagree. I see a necessity in trying to force people to use ogg or > > any other free (as speech) codec, before "digital rights protected" > > codecs get more widely used. It's politics, but I think it important. > > Mp3 is not an alternative here, because there already are more > > powerful commercial and DRM enabled codecs available and it is an > > important task to not let these take over. Frank, I acknowledge your right to have this opinion, but it isn't going to change the basic fact that if a Windows user doesn't know how to listen to your ogg, he isn't going to hear it. I think the real job to be done is to make ogg a standard that's accepted by M$ one fo these days and just included in their Media Player releases, so the user doesn't have to figure this stuff out. As I said, I went 15 years without bothering until today. (Of course, I am a bit slow!) ;-) Mark > > > > I back you on this Frank. It's roughly equivalent to gpl'ing code. At > least from a philosophical perspective if not legal. Anyone who tries to > pass off an open source ogg release as their own music is just lame but > they should be encouraged to sample it and rework it to their hearts > content. I just wish flac was more widely accepted but that ain't gonna > happen. Patrick, I didn't understand your point. I didn't think we were talking about passing other people's music off as our own. I thought we were saying that Windows users cannot listen to ogg files without making adjustments to their systems. I guess I just didn't follow your point. Cheers, Mark
