Re: add venus firmware file for qcs615

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 10:22, Vikash Garodia <quic_vgarodia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/2/2024 8:51 PM, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> >
> > On 12/2/2024 8:41 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:20:40PM +0530, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 12/2/2024 6:16 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 05:30:55PM +0530, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Dmitry,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/29/2024 8:05 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 01:22:50PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 04:40:51PM +0530, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 4:09 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 01:31:14PM +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 at 13:05, Vikash Garodia <quic_vgarodia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2024 4:16 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 09:06:55AM +0530, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/13/2024 8:10 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 10:50:44AM +0000, Renjiang Han (QUIC) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following changes since commit 6482750d396980a31f76edd5a84b03a96bbdf3fe:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Merge branch 'verb' into 'main' (2024-11-11 20:01:00 +0000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are available in the Git repository at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:clo/linux-kernel/linux-firmware.git<mailto:git@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:clo/linux-kernel/linux-firmware.git> video-firmware-qcs615
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for you to fetch changes up to 1e7f65883150d3b48307b4f0d6871c60151ee25b:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   qcom: venus-5.4: add venus firmware file for qcs615 (2024-11-13 15:50:29 +0530)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renjiang Han (1):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       qcom: venus-5.4: add venus firmware file for qcs615
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHENCE                      |   1 +
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please be more specific, what is the difference between the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing file and a new file? According to the soc_vers the new file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports sdm845. Should it instead replace the old firmware?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> SDM845, SC7180, qcs615 can be enabled on same firmware ideally, but due to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> different signing for qcs615, it takes a separate bin (xxx_s6.mbn).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can SDM845 handle v6 signatures? It supports v5 and PSS. Or can QCS615
> >>>>>>>>>>>> use v5 signatures?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Infact we started with loading sc7180 firmware on qc615, video init failed. So
> >>>>>>>>>>> far i have seen 2 categories in signing version for video bins, either default
> >>>>>>>>>>> or v6 specific tool.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Can firmware / security engineers actually advice us on using v5
> >>>>>>>>>> firmware signatures with QCS615 _and_ with older platforms?
> >>>>>>>>>> Existing venus-5.4/venus.mbn uses v3
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Vikash, any updates on this topic? Would it be possible to have a single
> >>>>>>>>> FW image with just v5 signatures?
> >>>>>>>> Not yet Dmitry. Having a followup with relevant folks this friday to understand
> >>>>>>>> the signing requirements across different SOCs, hopefully will be able to add
> >>>>>>>> something on this by then.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's been more than a week since the last email. Are there any updates?
> >>>>>> I'd really like to get this sorted out before next linux-firmware
> >>>>>> release, otherwise we'll be stuck with these names for the foreseeable
> >>>>>> future.
> >>>>> I have been chasing both the firmware and security folks to align on this. So
> >>>>> far the updates are that one is signed MBNv5 and other with MBNV6, hence leading
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the existing firmware uses v3, not v5.
> >>>>
> >>>> 00001000  00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 28 00 a0 0f  |............(...|
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> to different set of binaries. These MBN versions of signing is defined at SOC
> >>>>> level and depends on secure boot libraries used in that SOC.
> >>>>> At the same time, there is an experiment to check if SC7180 can be signed with
> >>>>> version used for QCS615 i.e MBNV6.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks! Are you trying that without updating the whole bootloader stack? I
> >>>> think some of SC7180 devices might be EOL'd, so it might be hard to get
> >>>> FW/bootloader updates.
> >>> Just the firmware part, by signing it with qcs615 way, as an experiment
> >>> suggested by security folks.
> >>
> >> Ok, that doesn't sound like a lengthy experiment: resign the FW, boot
> >> the laptop, caboom or not caboom. If I remember correctly the file that
> >> you've pushed even lists sc7180 as allowed.
> > its used only for qcs615.
> some good news, we could now have qcs615 firmware as common for both qcs615 as
> well as sc7180. A PR would be raised to updated 5.4/venus.mbn and at the same
> time to delete 5.4/venus_s6.mbn.

Note, 5.4/venus_s6.mbn has been included into December release, so
ideally you have to provide backwards compatible link (unless
maintainers allow you to skip one).

>
> Regards,
> Vikash
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>> One query here - given that qcs615 only loads the venus_s6.mbn variant, and it
> >>>>> is not enabled yet (patches in review) for video, we should be good if we
> >>>>> conclude the firmware part before accepting the qcs615 enablement patches ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Good question. I think that depends on linux-firmware maintainer's
> >>>> opinion.
> >>>>
> >>



-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry




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