On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:52:45PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 04:32:50PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > OK. How about this one? > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 P3 > > > Wa=2 rcu_read_lock() Wc=2 Wd=2 > > > memb Wb=2 Rd=0 synchronize_rcu(); > > > Rb=0 Rc=0 Ra=0 > > > rcu_read_unlock() > > > > > > The model should say that it is allowed. Taking a look... > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 P3 > > > Rd=0 > > > Wd=2 > > > synchronize_rcu(); > > > Ra=0 > > > Wa=2 > > > membs > > > rcu_read_lock() > > > [m01] > > > Rc=0 > > > Wc=2 > > > [m02] [m03] > > > membe > > > Rb=0 > > > Wb=2 > > > rcu_read_unlock() > > > > > > Looks allowed to me. If the synchronization of P1 and P2 were > > > interchanged, it should be forbidden: > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 P3 > > > Wa=2 Wb=2 rcu_read_lock() Wd=2 > > > memb Rc=0 Wc=2 synchronize_rcu(); > > > Rb=0 Rd=0 Ra=0 > > > rcu_read_unlock() > > > > > > Taking a look... > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 P3 > > > rcu_read_lock() > > > Rd=0 > > > Wa=2 Wb=2 Wd=2 > > > membs synchronize_rcu(); > > > [m01] > > > Rc=0 > > > Wc=2 > > > rcu_read_unlock() > > > [m02] Ra=0 [Forbidden?] > > > membe > > > Rb=0 > > For one thing, Wb=2 needs to be down here, apologies! Which then ... > > > Have you tried writing these as real litmus tests and running them > > through herd? > > That comes later, but yes, I will do that. > > > > I believe that this ordering forbids the cycle: > > > > > > Wa=1 > membs -> [m01] -> Rc=0 -> Wc=2 -> rcu_read_unlock() -> > > > return from synchronize_rcu() -> Ra > > > > > > Does this make sense, or am I missing something? > > > > It's hard to tell. What you have written here isn't justified by the > > litmus test source code, since the position of m01 in P1's program > > order is undetermined. How do you justify m01 -> Rc, for example? > > ... justifies Rc=0 following [m01]. > > > Write it this way instead, using the relations defined in the > > sys_membarrier patch for linux-kernel.cat: > > > > memb ->memb-gp memb ->rcu-link Rc ->memb-rscsi Rc ->rcu-link > > > > rcu_read_unlock ->rcu-rscsi rcu_read_lock ->rcu-link > > > > synchronize_rcu ->rcu-gp synchronize_rcu ->rcu-link memb > > > > Recall that: > > > > memb-gp is the identity relation on sys_membarrier events, > > > > rcu-link includes (po? ; fre ; po), > > > > memb-rscsi is the identity relation on all events, > > > > rcu-rscsi links unlocks to their corresponding locks, and > > > > rcu-gp is the identity relation on synchronize_rcu events. > > > > These facts justify the cycle above. > > > > Leaving off the final rcu-link step, the sequence matches the > > definition of rcu-fence (the relations are memb-gp, memb-rscsi, > > rcu-rscsi, rcu-gp with rcu-links in between). Therefore the cycle is > > forbidden. > > Understood, but that would be using the model to check the model. ;-) And here are the litmus tests in the same order as above. They do give the results we both called out above, which is encouraging. Thanx, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ C C-memb-RCU-1 (* * Result: Sometimes *) { } P0(int *x0, int *x1) { WRITE_ONCE(*x0, 1); smp_memb(); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x1); } P1(int *x1, int *x2) { rcu_read_lock(); WRITE_ONCE(*x1, 1); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x2); rcu_read_unlock(); } P2(int *x2, int *x3) { WRITE_ONCE(*x2, 1); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x3); } P3(int *x3, int *x0) { WRITE_ONCE(*x3, 1); synchronize_rcu(); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x0); } exists (0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0 /\ 2:r1=0 /\ 3:r1=0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ C C-memb-RCU-1 (* * Result: Never *) { } P0(int *x0, int *x1) { WRITE_ONCE(*x0, 1); smp_memb(); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x1); } P1(int *x1, int *x2) { WRITE_ONCE(*x1, 1); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x2); } P2(int *x2, int *x3) { rcu_read_lock(); WRITE_ONCE(*x2, 1); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x3); rcu_read_unlock(); } P3(int *x3, int *x0) { WRITE_ONCE(*x3, 1); synchronize_rcu(); r1 = READ_ONCE(*x0); } exists (0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0 /\ 2:r1=0 /\ 3:r1=0)