On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:04:44PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > > Or am I still missing something here? > > > > > > > > You tell me... > > > > > > I think I am on board. ;-) > > > > And more to the point, here is a three-process variant showing a cycle > > that is permitted: > > > > > > P0 P1 P2 > > Wa=2 Wb=2 Wc=2 > > mb0s > > [mb01] [mb02] > > mb0e > > Rb=0 Rc=0 Ra=0 > > > > As can be seen by reordering it as follows: > > > > P0 P1 P2 > > Ra=0 > > Wa=2 > > mb0s > > [mb01] > > Rc=0 > > Wc=2 > > [mb02] > > mb0e > > Rb=0 > > Wb=2 > > > > Make sense? > > You got it! OK. How about this one? P0 P1 P2 P3 Wa=2 rcu_read_lock() Wc=2 Wd=2 memb Wb=2 Rd=0 synchronize_rcu(); Rb=0 Rc=0 Ra=0 rcu_read_unlock() The model should say that it is allowed. Taking a look... P0 P1 P2 P3 Rd=0 Wd=2 synchronize_rcu(); Ra=0 Wa=2 membs rcu_read_lock() [m01] Rc=0 Wc=2 [m02] [m03] membe Rb=0 Wb=2 rcu_read_unlock() Looks allowed to me. If the synchronization of P1 and P2 were interchanged, it should be forbidden: P0 P1 P2 P3 Wa=2 Wb=2 rcu_read_lock() Wd=2 memb Rc=0 Wc=2 synchronize_rcu(); Rb=0 Rd=0 Ra=0 rcu_read_unlock() Taking a look... P0 P1 P2 P3 rcu_read_lock() Rd=0 Wa=2 Wb=2 Wd=2 membs synchronize_rcu(); [m01] Rc=0 Wc=2 rcu_read_unlock() [m02] Ra=0 [Forbidden?] membe Rb=0 I believe that this ordering forbids the cycle: Wa=1 > membs -> [m01] -> Rc=0 -> Wc=2 -> rcu_read_unlock() -> return from synchronize_rcu() -> Ra Does this make sense, or am I missing something? Thanx, Paul