... ciao: on "2-5-2004" "Eve Atley" writ: : Red Hat 9 linux server in a small business ... We also own "Red Hat : Linux Networking and System Administration" ... I don't have the luxury : of playing with our server it is unclear to me, 'why' you want to 'learn' linux. if it's work related, you have a problem. RH, in an M$-esque move, no longer offers distributions like they did in the past. RH has gotten expensive. also, RH almost always 'back-ported' security patches, and in so doing, kept the 'user' tied to them. in addition, if your work environ does not allow adequate time to get the job done, then you're walking into a situation where you have ultimate responsibility, and "NO" authority. trying to 'learn' on a "production" machine is not a prudent choice in any event, and is not a good career move. it's my opinion, linux not taught, but learned. if you're serious, you'll put a system together, and suffer the learning curve involved. initially, you can expect to break something, and then you get to fix it. fwiw: (a) RTFM (read the fucking manual) (b) 'man man' (c) 'apropos foobar' a very helpful information template ... -- ... i'm a man, but i can change, if i have to , i guess ... - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html