On 2018-12-04 4:57 p.m., Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 01:37:56PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: >> Yeah, our NUMA mechanisms are for managing memory that the kernel itself >> manages in the "normal" allocator and supports a full feature set on. >> That has a bunch of implications, like that the memory is cache coherent >> and accessible from everywhere. >> >> The HMAT patches only comprehend this "normal" memory, which is why >> we're extending the existing /sys/devices/system/node infrastructure. >> >> This series has a much more aggressive goal, which is comprehending the >> connections of every memory-target to every memory-initiator, no matter >> who is managing the memory, who can access it, or what it can be used for. >> >> Theoretically, HMS could be used for everything that we're doing with >> /sys/devices/system/node, as long as it's tied back into the existing >> NUMA infrastructure _somehow_. >> >> Right? > Fully correct mind if i steal that perfect summary description next time > i post ? I am so bad at explaining thing :) > > Intention is to allow program to do everything they do with mbind() today > and tomorrow with the HMAT patchset and on top of that to also be able to > do what they do today through API like OpenCL, ROCm, CUDA ... So it is one > kernel API to rule them all ;) As for ROCm, I'm looking forward to using hbind in our own APIs. It will save us some time and trouble not having to implement all the low-level policy and tracking of virtual address ranges in our device driver. Going forward, having a common API to manage the topology and memory affinity would also enable sane ways of having accelerators and memory devices from different vendors interact under control of a topology-aware application. Disclaimer: I haven't had a chance to review the patches in detail yet. Got caught up in the documentation and discussion ... Regards, Felix > > Also at first i intend to special case vma alloc page when they are HMS > policy, long term i would like to merge code path inside the kernel. But > i do not want to disrupt existing code path today, i rather grow to that > organicaly. Step by step. The mbind() would still work un-affected in > the end just the plumbing would be slightly different. > > Cheers, > Jérôme