Re: BIOS and CPU C_states are strange

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Hi~
powertop can download from
http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/download/powertop-1.11.tar.gz

Sorry~I forgot the name of Intel utility.

Best Regards,
Edward

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> 1- where can I find powertop source code?
> 2- what is the name of intel utility in windows as you said?
> --------------------------
> *Mahmood Naderan*
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Edward Shao<laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi~
>> It's all depended on how utility to interpret raw information (both
>> information reported by CPU or BIOS).
>> You can check source code of powertop for detail information.
>> For BIOS part, powertop checks value of mwait hint register reported
>> by ACPI _CST method.
>>
>> As my experience, powertop will cause a misleading sometimes,
>> especially for new Intel CPU.
>> For example:
>> BIOS engineer said they followed Intel BIOS porting guide to report an
>> accuracy C-state (C6) information via ACPI _CST method.
>> However powertop said BIOS only reports C3. (but Intel utility under
>> Windows said CPU can enter C6).
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Edward
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>> Only simple check value of edx.
>>>> Well, unless CPU uses CPUID.5.EDX[31:20], the reserved area.
>>>
>>> You mean that powertop is not correctly reading the states? Do you
>>> mean that the BIOS reports better that the CPU ?
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> *Mahmood Naderan*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Edward Shao <laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mahmood,
>>>>
>>>> So far as I know, if your CPU is Intel, powertop maybe cause a misleading.
>>>> Powertop uses CPUID.5.EDX to check CPU supported C states.
>>>> According Intel's spec (Intel Processor Identification and the CPUID
>>>> Instruction (Application Note 485), a CPU only has
>>>>
>>>> C0, C1, C2, C3, C4 (prior Core i7)
>>>> C0, C1, C2, C6, C7 (Core i7 and subsequent)
>>>>
>>>> Check with source code of powertop
>>>> while (edx) {
>>>>                if (edx&7)
>>>>                        printf("C%i ", i);
>>>>                edx = edx >> 4;
>>>>                i++;
>>>>        }
>>>> Only simple check value of edx.
>>>> Well, unless CPU uses CPUID.5.EDX[31:20], the reserved area.
>>>>
>>>> Ps: I does not check AMD's spec.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > I have run powertop with root permission with both AC and batter powers. The
>>>> > reported C_States are the same and strange:
>>>> >
>>>> > mahmood@magma:~$ sudo powertop
>>>> > PowerTOP 1.11   (C) 2007, 2008 Intel Corporation
>>>> >
>>>> > Collecting data for 5 seconds
>>>> >
>>>> > Your CPU supports the following C-states : C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
>>>> > Your BIOS reports the following C-states : C1 C2 C6
>>>> >
>>>> > Where are C4 and C5?
>>>> >
>>>> > --------------------------
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>>>> Edward
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