Re: BIOS and CPU C_states are strange

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Hi,
Thanks. Can I expect future versions of powertop will consider my
problem or it is a specific bug related to my BIOS (my laptop is HP
Pavilion DV2000)? I mean, this misreading is a bug in powertop or not?

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*Mahmood Naderan*




On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Edward Shao<laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi~
> powertop can download from
> http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/download/powertop-1.11.tar.gz
>
> Sorry~I forgot the name of Intel utility.
>
> Best Regards,
> Edward
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 1- where can I find powertop source code?
>> 2- what is the name of intel utility in windows as you said?
>> --------------------------
>> *Mahmood Naderan*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Edward Shao<laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi~
>>> It's all depended on how utility to interpret raw information (both
>>> information reported by CPU or BIOS).
>>> You can check source code of powertop for detail information.
>>> For BIOS part, powertop checks value of mwait hint register reported
>>> by ACPI _CST method.
>>>
>>> As my experience, powertop will cause a misleading sometimes,
>>> especially for new Intel CPU.
>>> For example:
>>> BIOS engineer said they followed Intel BIOS porting guide to report an
>>> accuracy C-state (C6) information via ACPI _CST method.
>>> However powertop said BIOS only reports C3. (but Intel utility under
>>> Windows said CPU can enter C6).
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Edward
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Only simple check value of edx.
>>>>> Well, unless CPU uses CPUID.5.EDX[31:20], the reserved area.
>>>>
>>>> You mean that powertop is not correctly reading the states? Do you
>>>> mean that the BIOS reports better that the CPU ?
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> *Mahmood Naderan*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Edward Shao <laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mahmood,
>>>>>
>>>>> So far as I know, if your CPU is Intel, powertop maybe cause a misleading.
>>>>> Powertop uses CPUID.5.EDX to check CPU supported C states.
>>>>> According Intel's spec (Intel Processor Identification and the CPUID
>>>>> Instruction (Application Note 485), a CPU only has
>>>>>
>>>>> C0, C1, C2, C3, C4 (prior Core i7)
>>>>> C0, C1, C2, C6, C7 (Core i7 and subsequent)
>>>>>
>>>>> Check with source code of powertop
>>>>> while (edx) {
>>>>>                if (edx&7)
>>>>>                        printf("C%i ", i);
>>>>>                edx = edx >> 4;
>>>>>                i++;
>>>>>        }
>>>>> Only simple check value of edx.
>>>>> Well, unless CPU uses CPUID.5.EDX[31:20], the reserved area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps: I does not check AMD's spec.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Edward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> > I have run powertop with root permission with both AC and batter powers. The
>>>>> > reported C_States are the same and strange:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > mahmood@magma:~$ sudo powertop
>>>>> > PowerTOP 1.11   (C) 2007, 2008 Intel Corporation
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Collecting data for 5 seconds
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Your CPU supports the following C-states : C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
>>>>> > Your BIOS reports the following C-states : C1 C2 C6
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Where are C4 and C5?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --------------------------
>>>>> > *Mahmood Naderan*
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Edward
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