Re: BIOS and CPU C_states are strange

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hi,
Maybe.... as I asked where is the source code of powertop and what is
the intel utility that you said in windows? Thanks.

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*Mahmood Naderan*




On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Edward Shao<laface.tw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi~
> In your case, typically C3 should map to CPU C6.
>
> Best Regards,
> Edward
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I got more confused... In my first post if you see, BIOS reports C1,
>> C2 and C6. Even it does not support C3 (!),  but here is the output of
>> "cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power":
>>
>> active state:            C0
>> max_cstate:              C8
>> bus master activity:     00000000
>> maximum allowed latency: 2000000000 usec
>> states:
>>    C1:                  type[C1] promotion[--] demotion[--]
>> latency[001] usage[00000063] duration[00000000000000000000]
>>    C2:                  type[C2] promotion[--] demotion[--]
>> latency[001] usage[00017466] duration[00000000000014422985]
>>    C3:                  type[C3] promotion[--] demotion[--]
>> latency[162] usage[00096196] duration[00000000000650582389]
>>
>> So I think something (BIOS or CPU or OS) is malfunctioning and does
>> not report correctly.
>> Now the big question is, will my system (a combination of CPU, BIOS
>> and OS) enter C3 (or even deeper states)?
>>
>> --------------------------
>> *Mahmood Naderan*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Ananth Narayan
>> S<ananth.narayan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> You could see it that way. The OS will use the C states exported by
>>> the BIOS. If C4/C5 are not exported, the OS will not even know that
>>> such states exist. If you query /proc/acpi/CPU*/power, you'll probably
>>> see just three C states listed (C1, C2, C3). Typically the last
>>> C-state (C3) in that will map to the lowest C-state supported by the
>>> processor.
>>>
>>> -- Ananth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> So if my understanding is correct, the BIOS does not allow the CPU to
>>>> enter C4 and C5 states. Right?
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> *Mahmood Naderan*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Ananth Narayan
>>>> S<ananth.narayan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Intel processors export a max supported c state value. But when it
>>>>> comes to c states, typically the one that provides max power savings
>>>>> is exported by the BIOS. The intermediate ones aren't.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Ananth Narayan S.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Mahmood Naderan<mahmood.nt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I have run powertop with root permission with both AC and batter powers. The
>>>>>> reported C_States are the same and strange:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mahmood@magma:~$ sudo powertop
>>>>>> PowerTOP 1.11   (C) 2007, 2008 Intel Corporation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collecting data for 5 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your CPU supports the following C-states : C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
>>>>>> Your BIOS reports the following C-states : C1 C2 C6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are C4 and C5?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>> *Mahmood Naderan*
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