Hola, Arturo. Antes de nada, muchas gracias por tu respuesta. Me ha sido mucho más fácil comprenderla debido a la raíz común de nuestros idiomas. Conozco el programa efax-gtk, de hecho lo tengo instalado, pero me da error a la hora de acceder al modem, de ahí la razón de mi consulta. Supongo que será por lo que me comenta Marv de las funciones de audio que son necesarias para el fax. ¿Podrías decirme cómo hiciste tú para conseguirlo? ¿También tuviste que instalar o compilar los módulos que me comentaron? Un abrazo, y muchas gracias por tu ayuda, Alfredo > >> Date: Mon=2C 2 Nov 2009 17:38:45 +0100 >> Subject: Re: FW: 0x10573055 chipset faxing through /dev/pts/N ports? WAS:= > Alfredo=2C Spain=2C kernel 2.6.28-16-generic >> From: ciornjeja@xxxxxxxxx >> To: provisio@xxxxxxxxxx >> CC: olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx=3B marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx=3B discuss@linm= > odems.org >>=20 >> Alfredo >> non conosco lo spagnolo e spero che tu capisca l'italiano. >> Con Ubuntu 9.04 =E8 possibile spedire fax usando il programma Efax-gtk >> che si trova nei repositori di Ubuntu. La procedura =E8 semplice=2C >> bisogna preparare il documento in formato PDF o postscript=2C ma io non >> so spiegarlo in spagnolo. Ma prima di tutto devi installare il modulo >> che pilota il modem come indicato dallo scanmodem e scritto da >> Antonio. Io spedisco e ricevo fax con Ubuntu. >>=20 >> 2009/11/2 Alfredo M.H. : >>> >>> Marv=2C Antonio. >>> >>> =A0De nuevo=2C much=EDsimas gracias por vuestras r=E1pidas y =FAtiles re= > spuestas. A ti=2C Antonio=2C gracias adem=E1s por hacer de int=E9rprete=2C = > porque=2C como ya os dije=2C mi nivel de ingl=E9s deja much=EDsimo que dese= > ar. >>> >>> =A0En fin=2C viendo que va a ser imposible (o muuuuy dif=EDcil para m=ED= > ) usar este modem como fax=2C tendr=E9 que seguir usando el de otro port=E1= > til con Win XP (el m=EDo=2C que tiene una partici=3DF3n con Vista que apena= > s uso por lo malo que es ese sistema operativo=2C no tiene servicios para e= > nviar fax y tampoco tengo ning=3DFAn programa comercial para hacerlo). De m= > omento=2C estoy bastante contento con Ubuntu 9.04=2C aunque=2C viniendo del= > mundo Windows=2C se echa en falta un poco m=E1s de facilidad en algunas cu= > estiones y alguna que otra funcionalidad en los programas habituales=2C per= > o bueno=2C todo es ir investigando y aprendiendo. >>> >>> =A0Un saludo y muchas gracias >>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Al= > fredo >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Marv dice que el modem no se usa generalmente para hacer FAX aunque el >>>>> archivo SLMODEMD esta competente para hacer FAX. El problema es que >>>>> el modem usa un port verdadero /dev/pts/N con N siendo un numero y no >>>>> tienen la capacidad para sonido que se requiere para FAX. >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D= > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D >>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> Alfredo >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> Re: solo quiero usar el modem para enviar faxes de manera ocasional. >>>>> Concerning FAX=3D2C this can likely not be supported under Linux=3D2C = > though >>>>> the slmodemd utility is itself FAX competent. >>>>> The problem is that the modem uses the a true port /dev/pts/N (some nu= > m=3D >>>> ber) >>>>> Such /dev/pts/ ports do not yet have the capability for the SOUND >>>>> support needed for fax. >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> List if someone else has another experience concerning Faxing through >>>>> /dev/pts/ ports=3D2C please advise. >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> Saludos=3D2C >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> Antonio >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> On 11/2/09=3D2C Marvin Stodolsky =A0wrote: >>>>>> Alfredo >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: solo quiero usar el modem para enviar faxes de manera ocasional. >>>>>> Concerning FAX=3D2C this can likely not be supported under Linux=3D2C= > though >>>>>> the slmodemd utility is itself FAX competent. >>>>>> The problem is that the modem uses the a true port /dev/pts/N (some n= > um=3D >>>> ber) >>>>>> Such /dev/pts/ ports do not yet have the capability for the SOUND >>>>>> support needed for fax. >>>>>> >>>>>> List if someone else has another experience concerning Faxing through >>>>>> /dev/pts/ ports=3D2C please advise. >>>>>> >>>>>> MarvS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon=3D2C Nov 2=3D2C 2009 at 7:16 AM=3D2C Alfredo M.H. =3D >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gracias a todos por vuestras respuestas=3D2C y perdonad nuevamente p= > or mi=3D >>>> baja >>>>>>> comprensi=3DF3n del ingl=3DE9s. He bajado la versi=3DF3n de SLMODEMD= > que me r=3D >>>> ecomienda >>>>>>> MarvS=3D2C pero ahora me encuentro con el mismo problema=3D2C porque= > est=3DE1=3D >>>> repleto >>>>>>> de archivos en ingl=3DE9s y cada cual dice sus cosas y no s=3DE9 a q= > u=3DE9 at=3D >>>> enerme. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Si alguien fuera tan amable de explic=3DE1rmelo en espa=3DF1ol y de = > manera >>>>>>> comprensible me ser=3DEDa de gran ayuda. Como dije en mi primer mens= > aje=3D >>>> =3D2C solo >>>>>>> quiero usar el modem para enviar faxes de manera ocasional. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bueno=3D2C repito=3D2C muchas gracias a todos y disculpad mi torpeza= > (soy n=3D >>>> uevo en >>>>>>> el mundo Linux y se nota) y mi poco nivel de ingl=3DE9s. Un saludo= > =3D2C >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alfredo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Sun=3D2C 1 Nov 2009 18:36:52 -0500 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Alfredo=3D2C Spain=3D2C kernel 2.6.28-16-generic >>>>>>>> From: marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> To: olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> CC: provisio@xxxxxxxxxx=3D3B discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alfredo=3D2C >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Use the =3DA0SLMODEMD_gcc4.3_alsa1.0.18.tar.gz >>>>>>>> to match the ALSA version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll fix the bug in scanModem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MarvS >>>>>>>> scanModem maintainer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun=3D2C Nov 1=3D2C 2009 at 3:08 PM=3D2C Antonio Olivares >>>>>>>> =A0wrote: >>>>>>>>> Alfredo=3D2C >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> scanModem recommends that you get SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Predictive =3DA0diagnostics for card in bus 00:0f.0: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 Modem chipset =3DA0detected on >>>>>>>>> =3DA0NAME=3D3D"Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azal= > ia Audi=3D >>>> o >>>>>>>>> Controller" >>>>>>>>> =3DA0CLASS=3D3D0403 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0PCIDEV=3D3D1039:7502 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0SUBSYS=3D3D1043:1783 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0IRQ=3D3D18 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0HDA=3D3D1039:7502 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0SOFT=3D3D1039:7502.HDA >>>>>>>>> =3DA0HDAchipVendorID=3D3D1057 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0CHIP=3D3D0x10573055 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0IDENT=3D3Dslmodemd >>>>>>>>> =3DA0SLMODEMD_DEVICE=3D3Dhw:0=3D2C6 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Driver=3D3Dsnd-hda-intel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0For candidate modem in: =3DA000:0f.0 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA00403 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Aza= > lia Aud=3D >>>> io >>>>>>>>> Controller >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 Primary device ID: =3DA01039:7502 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 Subsystem PCI_id =3DA01043:1783 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 Softmodem codec or chipset from diagnostics: 0x1057305= > 5 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 = > =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0from =3D >>>> =3DA0 =3DA0Archives: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 = > =3DA0 The HDA card softmode=3D >>>> m chip is 0x10573055 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Support type needed or chipset: =3DA0 =3DA0slmodemd supportin= > g the >>>>>>>>> snd-hda-intel audio+modem driver >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0An ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) modem driver: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0snd-hda-intel >>>>>>>>> =3DA0provides Low Level support enabling contact with the modem ha= > rdwar=3D >>>> e. >>>>>>>>> =3DA0For all BUT Conexant chip soft modems (using hsfmodem softwar= > e) >>>>>>>>> =3DA0complementary High Level support is through a Smartlink utili= > ty: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0slmodemd >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Download from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartl= > ink/ >>>>>>>>> =3DA0the package SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz having a compiled slmodemd= > . >>>>>>>>> Unpack under Linux with: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0$ tar zxf SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz >>>>>>>>> =3DA0and read instructions therein. But briefly=3D2C the modem is = > setup w=3D >>>> ith >>>>>>>>> command: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0sudo slmodemd -c YOUR_COUNTRY --alsa hw:0=3D2C6 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0reporting dynamic creation of ports: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 /dev/ttySL0 --> /dev/pts/N =3DA0 =3D2C with N some num= > ber >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Read DOCs/Smartlink.txt and Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt for fol= > low >>>>>>>>> through guidance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One problem is the Modem Interrupt Assignment=3D2C and wvdial is n= > ot >>>>>>>>> installed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For candidate card in slot 00:0f.0=3D2C firmware information and b= > ootup >>>>>>>>> diagnostics are: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0PCI slot =3DA0 =3DA0PCI ID =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0SubsystemID= > =3DA0 =3DA0Name >>>>>>>>> =3DA0---------- =3DA0 =3DA0--------- =3DA0 =3DA0--------- =3DA0 = > =3DA0-------------- >>>>>>>>> =3DA000:0f.0 =3DA0 =3DA01039:7502 =3DA0 =3DA01043:1783 =3DA0 =3DA0= > Audio device: Sil=3D >>>> icon >>>>>>>>> Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Modem interrupt assignment and sharing: >>>>>>>>> =3DA018: =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA018017 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0384 =3DA0 I= > O-APIC-fasteoi =3DA0 HD=3D >>>> A Intel >>>>>>>>> =3DA0--- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 00:0f.0 ---- >>>>>>>>> =3DA0[ =3DA0 =3DA00.521688] pci 0000:00:0f.0: reg 10 32bit mmio: >>>>>>>>> [0xfddf8000-0xfddfbfff] >>>>>>>>> =3DA0[ =3DA0 =3DA00.521724] pci 0000:00:0f.0: PME# supported from = > D0 D3hot =3D >>>> D3cold >>>>>>>>> =3DA0[ =3DA0 =3DA00.521728] pci 0000:00:0f.0: PME# disabled >>>>>>>>> =3DA0[ =3DA0 11.242765] HDA Intel 0000:00:0f.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 1= > 8 (leve=3D >>>> l=3D2C >>>>>>>>> low) -> IRQ 18 >>>>>>>>> =3DA0[ =3DA0 11.242865] HDA Intel 0000:00:0f.0: setting latency ti= > mer to =3D >>>> 64 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =3DA0The PCI slot 00:0f.0 of the modem card may be disabled early = > in >>>>>>>>> =3DA0a bootup process=3D2C =3DA0but then enabled later. If modem d= > rivers lo=3D >>>> ad >>>>>>>>> =3DA0but the =3DA0modem is not responsive=3D2C read DOCs/Bootup.tx= > t about p=3D >>>> ossible >>>>>>>>> fixes. >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@linmodems.= > org >>>>>>>>> =3DA0if help is needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The dialer utility package WVDIAL does not appear to be installed = > on >>>>>>>>> your System. >>>>>>>>> =3DA0For Ubuntu Jaunty users=3D2C there are at the bottom of >>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0wvdial_jaunty_amd64.zip =3DA0 for x86_64=3D2C 64 = > bit bus syste=3D >>>> ms. >>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0wvdial_jaunty_i386.zip =3DA0 =3DA0for 32 bit syst= > ems. >>>>>>>>> =3DA0These are about 1 MB in size. =3DA0After downloaded and copie= > d into =3D >>>> your >>>>>>>>> Linux partition: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0$ unzip wv*.zip >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Within the new folder: >>>>>>>>> =3DA0$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb >>>>>>>>> =3DA0will =3DA0complete the wvdial installation >>>>>>>>> =3DA0Please read Modem/DOCs/wvdial.txt for usage information. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is however=3D2C a problem=3D2C since your system is x86_64 b= > it and >>>>>>>>> SLMODEMD only works in 32 bit. If you reinstall Ubuntu=3D2C try >>>>>>>>> reinstalling 32 bit to make the modem functional. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alfredo=3D2C >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> scanModem recommienda SLMODEMD.gcc.4.3.tar.gz=3D2C pero tu sistema= > es 6=3D >>>> 4 >>>>>>>>> bits y SLMODEMD es solamente para 32 bits. =3DA0El modem si puede >>>>>>>>> funcionar pero solo en 32 bits. =3DA0Tambien no tienes el archivo = > WVDIA=3D >>>> L >>>>>>>>> installado. =3DA0Si reinstalas Ubuntu=3D2C instala la version de 3= > 2 bits =3D >>>> para >>>>>>>>> poder usar el modem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saludos=3D2C >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Antonio >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/1/09=3D2C Alfredo M.H. =A0wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello=3D2C everybody. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Before I pass to expose my problem=3D2C I'd >>>>>>>>>> like apologize for my level of English. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have an Asus notebook with this >>>>>>>>>> features: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU (T5800)=3D2C 4 Gb. RAM=3D2C 15.4= > =3D94 WXGA=3D >>>> =3D2C 320 >>>>>>>>>> Gb. HDD=3D2C DVD Sup. MTI=3D2C Graphic Card ATI Mobility Radeon H= > D 3470 =3D >>>> (VRAM >>>>>>>>>> 256 Mb.)=3D2C 802.11 b/g (Atheros AR928X) and -according to Vista= > - a >>>>>>>>>> Motorola SM56 Speakerphone modem/fax. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I use Ubuntu 9.04=3D2C and I'd like to use >>>>>>>>>> the modem to send faxes=3D2C but it seems that Ubuntu don't detec= > t it.=3D >>>> I >>>>>>>>>> ran the scanModem tool but=3D2C due to my bad English understandi= > ng=3D2C=3D >>>> I >>>>>>>>>> don't know what to do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like someone help me (if possible=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> in Spanish=3D2C please) to I can using the modem-fax. Here are th= > e >>>>>>>>>> content of ModemData.txt: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Only plain text email is forwarded by the=3DA0 Discuss@Linmo= > dems.or=3D >>>> g List >>>>>>>>>> Server=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0as HTML can contain viruses. Use as the email Subject Line: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 YourName=3D2C = > YourCountry=3DA0 kernel 2.6=3D >>>> .28-16-generic >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0With this Subject Line cogent experts will be alerted=3D2C a= > nd usef=3D >>>> ul case >>>>>>>>>> names left in the Archive. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0YourCountry will enable Country specific guidance. Linux exp= > erts =3D >>>> in >>>>>>>>>> YourCountry >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0can be found through: http://www.linux.org/groups/index.html= > . >>>>>>>>>> They will know your Country's modem code=3D2C which may be essent= > ial f=3D >>>> or >>>>>>>>>> dialup >>>>>>>>>> service. >>>>>>>>>> Responses from Discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx are sometimes blocked by an >>>>>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>>>>> Provider mail filters. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0So in a day=3D2C also check the Archived responses at >>>>>>>>>> http://www.linmodems.org >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------=3DA0 System information >>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> CPU=3D3Dx86_64=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> Linux version 2.6.28-16-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.3= > .3 >>>>>>>>>> (Ubuntu >>>>>>>>>> 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20 19:48:32 UTC 2009 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0scanModem update of:=3DA0 2009_09_15 >>>>>>>>>> The modem symbolic link is /dev/modem -> ttySL0 >>>>>>>>>> The slmodemd set symbolic link is /dev/ttySL0 -> /dev/pts/0 >>>>>>>>>> The dialer utility package WVDIAL does not appear to be installed= > on >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> System. >>>>>>>>>> For Ubuntu Jaunty users=3D2C there are at the bottom of >>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 wvdial_jaunty_amd64.zip=3DA0=3DA0 for x86_64= > =3D2C 64 bit bus =3D >>>> systems. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 wvdial_jaunty_i386.zip=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 for 32= > bit systems. >>>>>>>>>> These are about 1 MB in size.=3DA0 After downloaded and copied in= > to yo=3D >>>> ur >>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>> partition: >>>>>>>>>> $ unzip wv*.zip >>>>>>>>>> Within the new folder: >>>>>>>>>> $ sudo dpkg -i *.deb >>>>>>>>>> will=3DA0 complete the wvdial installation >>>>>>>>>> Please read Modem/DOCs/wvdial.txt for usage information. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The dkms driver upgrade utilities are installed=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some modem drivers can only be used in 32 bit modem on x86_64 sys= > tem=3D >>>> s=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> while some others are competent on x86_64 Systems.=3DA0 Cases are= > : >>>>>>>>>> 1) >>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-seventh/msg03119.= > htm=3D >>>> l >>>>>>>>>> for the snd-hda-intel audio+modem driver. Also applicable to AC97= > mo=3D >>>> dem >>>>>>>>>> controllers. >>>>>>>>>> In both cases=3D2C 32 bit libraries must be installed to support = > the >>>>>>>>>> slmodemd >>>>>>>>>> helper having a precompiled 32 bit component. >>>>>>>>>> 2) For USB modems using the slusb.ko driver. 32 bit libraries mus= > t b=3D >>>> e >>>>>>>>>> installed to support the slmodemd helper having a precompiled 32 = > bit >>>>>>>>>> component >>>>>>>>>> 3) The hsfmodem and hcfpcimodem drivers for Conexant chipsest mod= > es =3D >>>> are >>>>>>>>>> x86_64 competent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0There are no blacklisted modem drivers in /etc/modprobe*=3DA= > 0 files >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Potentially useful modem drivers now loaded are: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 snd_hda_intel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Attached USB devices are: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0ID 0bda:0116 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0ID 04f2:b012 Chicony Electronics Co.=3D2C Ltd 1.3 MPixel UVC= > webcam >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0ID 03f0:0604 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 840c >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0ID 1241:1177 Belkin F8E842-DL Mouse >>>>>>>>>> If a cellphone is not detected=3D2C see >>>>>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-878554.html >>>>>>>>>> A sample report is: >>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-nineth/msg00578.h= > tml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If a USB modem or cellphone is attached and was not detected=3D2C= > plea=3D >>>> se >>>>>>>>>> provide available information in your request to discuss@linmodem= > s.o=3D >>>> rg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For candidate card in slot 00:0f.0=3D2C firmware information and = > bootu=3D >>>> p >>>>>>>>>> diagnostics are: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0PCI slot=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 PCI ID=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 =3DA0=3DA0=3DA= > 0 SubsystemID=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 =3D >>>> Name >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0----------=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 ---------=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 ---------= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 -------=3D >>>> ------- >>>>>>>>>> =3DA000:0f.0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 1039:7502=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 1043:1783=3D= > A0=3DA0=3DA0 Audio devi=3D >>>> ce: Silicon Integrated >>>>>>>>>> Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Modem interrupt assignment and sharing: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA018:=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 18017=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0 384=3DA0=3DA0 IO-APIC-f=3D >>>> asteoi=3DA0=3DA0 HDA Intel >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0--- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 00:0f.0 ---- >>>>>>>>>> [=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 0.521688] pci 0000:00:0f.0: reg 10 32bit mmio: >>>>>>>>>> [0xfddf8000-0xfddfbfff] >>>>>>>>>> [=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 0.521724] pci 0000:00:0f.0: PME# supported from = > D0 D3hot =3D >>>> D3cold >>>>>>>>>> [=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 0.521728] pci 0000:00:0f.0: PME# disabled >>>>>>>>>> [=3DA0=3DA0 11.242765] HDA Intel 0000:00:0f.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 1= > 8 (leve=3D >>>> l=3D2C low) >>>>>>>>>> -> >>>>>>>>>> IRQ 18 >>>>>>>>>> [=3DA0=3DA0 11.242865] HDA Intel 0000:00:0f.0: setting latency ti= > mer to =3D >>>> 64 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0The PCI slot 00:0f.0 of the modem card may be disabled early= > in >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0a bootup process=3D2C=3DA0 but then enabled later. If modem = > drivers l=3D >>>> oad >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0but the=3DA0 modem is not responsive=3D2C read DOCs/Bootup.t= > xt about =3D >>>> possible >>>>>>>>>> fixes. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@linmodems= > .org >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0if help is needed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA= > ) diagnostics=3D >>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D >>>>>>>>>> The ALSA packages provide audio support and also drivers for some >>>>>>>>>> modems. >>>>>>>>>> ALSA diagnostics are written during bootup to /proc/asound/ folde= > rs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The ALSA verion is 1.0.18 >>>>>>>>>> The modem cards detected by "aplay -l"=3DA0 are: >>>>>>>>>> tarjeta 0: SIS966 [HDA SIS966]=3D2C dispositivo 6: Si3054 Modem [= > Si305=3D >>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>> Modem] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The /proc/asound/pcm file reports: >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------- >>>>>>>>>> 00-00: ALC660-VD Analog : ALC660-VD Analog : playback 1 : capture= > 1 >>>>>>>>>> 00-06: Si3054 Modem : Si3054 Modem : playback 1 : capture 1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> about /proc/asound/cards: >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> =3DA00 [SIS966=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 ]: HDA-Int= > el - HDA SIS966 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 HDA =3D >>>> SIS966 at 0xfddf8000 irq 18 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0PCI slot 00:0f.0 has a High Definition Audio Card >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0The drivers are in the kernel modules tree at: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0/lib/modules/2.6.28-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-= > intel=3D >>>> .ko >>>>>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel= > .ko >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0The modem codec file for the HDA card is: /proc/asound/card0= > /code=3D >>>> c#1 >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Codec: Motorola Si3054 >>>>>>>>>> Address: 1 >>>>>>>>>> Vendor Id: 0x10573055 >>>>>>>>>> Subsystem Id: 0x10431316 >>>>>>>>>> Revision Id: 0x100700 >>>>>>>>>> Modem Function Group: 0x1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0The audio card hosts a softmodem chip:=3DA0 0x10573055 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The softmodem chip 0x10573055 is in principle supported by the CO= > MM >>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>> of slmodemd >>>>>>>>>> and the joint snd-hda-intel audio+modem driver=3D2C begun with AL= > SA ve=3D >>>> rsion >>>>>>>>>> 1.0.13. >>>>>>>>>> For HDA cards with ALC883 chips=3D2C an upgrade to ALSA verions 1= > .0.15=3D >>>> way >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> necessary. Instructions for Upgrading snd-hda-intel and its depen= > den=3D >>>> t >>>>>>>>>> driver >>>>>>>>>> set are at: >>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg00838.h= > tml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If not a Conexant modem=3D2C the driver snd-hda-intel with its de= > pende=3D >>>> nt >>>>>>>>>> drivers: >>>>>>>>>> snd_hda_intel=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 559028=3DA0= > 6 >>>>>>>>>> snd_pcm=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3D= > A0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 99464=3DA0 4 snd_=3D >>>> hda_intel=3D2Csnd_pcm_oss >>>>>>>>>> snd=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 78920=3D >>>> =3DA0 19 >>>>>>>>>> snd_hda_intel=3D2Csnd_pcm_oss=3D2Csnd_mixer_oss=3D2Csnd_pcm=3D2Cs= > nd_seq_oss=3D >>>> =3D2Csnd_rawmidi=3D2Csnd_seq=3D2Csnd_timer=3D2Csnd_seq_device >>>>>>>>>> snd_page_alloc=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 18704=3DA0= > 2 snd_hda_intel=3D2Csn=3D >>>> d_pcm >>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>> provide audio + modem support with the modem chip residing on the >>>>>>>>>> subsystem. >>>>>>>>>> Any particular card can host any one of several soft modem chips. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D Finished firmware and bootup diagnostics=3D2C nex= > t deducing =3D >>>> cogent >>>>>>>>>> software. >>>>>>>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Predictive=3DA0 diagnostics for card in bus 00:0f.0: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Modem chipset=3DA0 detected on >>>>>>>>>> NAME=3D3D"Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia A= > udio >>>>>>>>>> Controller" >>>>>>>>>> CLASS=3D3D0403 >>>>>>>>>> PCIDEV=3D3D1039:7502 >>>>>>>>>> SUBSYS=3D3D1043:1783 >>>>>>>>>> IRQ=3D3D18 >>>>>>>>>> HDA=3D3D1039:7502 >>>>>>>>>> SOFT=3D3D1039:7502.HDA >>>>>>>>>> HDAchipVendorID=3D3D1057 >>>>>>>>>> CHIP=3D3D0x10573055 >>>>>>>>>> IDENT=3D3Dslmodemd >>>>>>>>>> SLMODEMD_DEVICE=3D3Dhw:0=3D2C6 >>>>>>>>>> Driver=3D3Dsnd-hda-intel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0For candidate modem in:=3DA0 00:0f.0 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0 0403 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Az= > alia Au=3D >>>> dio >>>>>>>>>> Controller >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Primary device ID:=3DA0 1039:7502 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Subsystem PCI_id=3DA0 1043:1783 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Softmodem codec or chipset from diagnostics: 0x10= > 573055 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3D >>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 from=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Archives: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3D >>>> =3DA0 The HDA card softmodem chip is 0x10573055 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Support type needed or chipset:=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 slmodemd supportin= > g the >>>>>>>>>> snd-hda-intel >>>>>>>>>> audio+modem driver >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0An ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) modem driver: >>>>>>>>>> snd-hda-intel >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0provides Low Level support enabling contact with the modem h= > ardwa=3D >>>> re. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0For all BUT Conexant chip soft modems (using hsfmodem softwa= > re) >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0complementary High Level support is through a Smartlink util= > ity: >>>>>>>>>> slmodemd >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Download from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smart= > link/ >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0the package SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz having a compiled slmodem= > d. Un=3D >>>> pack >>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>> Linux with: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 $ tar zxf SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0and read instructions therein. But briefly=3D2C the modem is= > setup =3D >>>> with >>>>>>>>>> command: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 sudo slmodemd -c YOUR_COUNTRY --alsa hw:0=3D= > 2C6 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0reporting dynamic creation of ports: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 /dev/ttySL0 --> /dev/pts/N=3DA0=3DA0 =3D2C with N= > some number >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Read DOCs/Smartlink.txt and Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt for fo= > llow >>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>> guidance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Writing DOCs/Smartlink.txt >>>>>>>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D end = > Smartlink section =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D >>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D= > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Completed candidate modem analyses. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0The base of the UDEV device file system is: /dev/.udev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Versions adequately match for the compiler installed: 4.3.3 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 and = > the compiler used in kernel=3D >>>> assembly: 4.3.3 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Minimal compiling resources appear complete: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0 make utility - /usr/bin/make >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0 Compiler version 4.3 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0 linuc_headers base folder /lib/modules/2.6.28-16-gener= > ic/buil=3D >>>> d >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0However some compilations and executable functions may need = > addit=3D >>>> ional >>>>>>>>>> files=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0in the FileNames.h (so called kernel "h"eaders) collection i= > nstal=3D >>>> led >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> /usr/include/ . >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0For martian_modem=3D2C additional required packages are need= > ed. The=3D >>>> also >>>>>>>>>> required headers of package libc6 are commonly installed by defau= > lt. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Compiling hsfmodem drivers does require linux-libc-dev and l= > ibc6-=3D >>>> dev >>>>>>>>>> packages=3D2C for kernels 2.6.24 and later versions. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0In not included on your install CD=3D2C search for them at >>>>>>>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0or comparable Repository for other Linux distros. >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0When compiling ALSA drivers=3D2C the utility "patch" will al= > so be n=3D >>>> eeded. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If a driver compilation fails=3D2C with message including some la= > ck of=3D >>>> some >>>>>>>>>> FileName.h (stdio.h for example)=3D2C then >>>>>>>>>> Some additional kernel-header files need installation to /usr/inc= > lud=3D >>>> e. >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> minimal additional packages are libc6-dev >>>>>>>>>> and any of its dependents=3D2C under Ubuntu linux-libc-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If an alternate ethernet connection is available=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> $=3DA0 apt-get update >>>>>>>>>> $=3DA0 apt-get -s install linux-kernel-devel >>>>>>>>>> will install needed packages. >>>>>>>>>> For Debian/Ubuntu related distributions=3D2C run the following co= > mmand=3D >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> display the needed package list: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Otherwise packages have to be found through http://packages.ubunt= > u.c=3D >>>> om >>>>>>>>>> Once downloaded and transferred into a Linux partition=3D2C >>>>>>>>>> they can be installed alltogether with: >>>>>>>>>> $ sudo dpkg -i *.deb >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Checking pppd properties: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 321600 2009-02-20 19:26 /us= > r/sbin/pp=3D >>>> pd >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In case of an "error 17" "serial loopback" problem=3D2C see: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/linmodems/archive-sixth/msg02637.= > htm=3D >>>> l >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To enable dialout without Root permission do: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 $ su - root=3DA0 (not for Ubuntu) >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd >>>>>>>>>> or under Ubuntu related Linuxes >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Checking settings of:=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 /etc/ppp/options >>>>>>>>>> asyncmap 0 >>>>>>>>>> noauth >>>>>>>>>> crtscts >>>>>>>>>> lock >>>>>>>>>> hide-password >>>>>>>>>> modem >>>>>>>>>> proxyarp >>>>>>>>>> lcp-echo-interval 30 >>>>>>>>>> lcp-echo-failure 4 >>>>>>>>>> noipx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In case of a message like: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0 Warning: Could not modify /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: Permis= > sion de=3D >>>> nied >>>>>>>>>> see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-sixth/msg0465= > 6.h=3D >>>> tml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Read Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt concerning other COMM channels: et= > h0 >>>>>>>>>> wlan0 >>>>>>>>>> wmaster0 >>>>>>>>>> Which can interfere with Browser naviagation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Don't worry about the following=3D2C it is for experts shoul= > d troub=3D >>>> le >>>>>>>>>> shooting >>>>>>>>>> be necessary. >>>>>>>>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D= > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D >>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D= > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D >>>> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0Checking for modem support lines: >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0-------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 /device/modem symbolic link:=3DA0=3DA0 lrwxr= > wxrwx 1 root ro=3D >>>> ot 6 2009-11-01 >>>>>>>>>> 16:04 /dev/modem -> ttySL0 >>>>>>>>>> slmodemd created symbolic link /dev/ttySL0:=3DA0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 roo= > t roo=3D >>>> t 10 >>>>>>>>>> 2009-11-01 16:04 /dev/ttySL0 -> /dev/pts/0 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Within /etc/udev/ files: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Within /etc/modprobe.conf files: >>>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem.conf:# Uncomment these entries in= > or=3D >>>> der >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> blacklist unwanted modem drivers >>>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem.conf:# blacklist snd-atiixp-modem >>>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem.conf:# blacklist snd-via82xx-mode= > m >>>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:options snd-atiixp-modem index=3D3= > D-2 >>>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:options snd-via82xx-modem index=3D= > 3D-2 >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Within any ancient /etc/devfs files: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Within ancient kernel 2.4.n /etc/module.conf= > files: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------- end modem support lines -------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for helping me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3D >>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0= > =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3D >>>> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Alfredo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Inf=3DF3rmate=3D2C mantente en contacto y encu=3DE9ntralo todo=3D= > 2C a la vez=3D >>>> . 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