Re: Connection problem

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Alessandro,

I cannot see why you cannot connect to those Internet Providers, could
you try to do the following:

when you connect to one/try to connect do,
$ script isp1.txt
$ su -
Password
# wvdial

# exit
$ exit
script isp1.txt saved
and do this for each ISP that you try to connect and send those to us,
so that we can try to find where in the process the connection fails.

I am checking your third provider (ISP) Tiscali:
http://assistenza.tiscali.it/configura/
clicked linux
checked/clicked on dialup not DSL
it returns a howto with kppp

http://assistenza.tiscali.it/linux/connessione/kppp/

and like you have mentioned a script
http://assistenza.tiscali.it/linux/connessione/script/

\begin{CUT AND PASTE}
    #!/bin/sh
    # script ppp_on
    #
    /usr/sbin/pppd connect \
    '/usr/sbin/chat -v -t60 "" atz OK atx3w2l1 OK atdt7023456789 *
    CONNECT ""' \
    user vostra_user_id

    #/etc/ppp/options
    #
    lock
    /dev/modem
    crtscts
    57600
    noipdefault
    noauth
    defaultroute
    modem
    debug
    kdebug 1

    #/etc/resolv.conf
    #
    domain tiscali.it

    #/etc/ppp/pap-secrets
    #
    # Secrets for authentication using PAP
    # client server secret IP addresses
    vostra_userid * vostra_password

Rendere eseguibile il file ppp_on con chmod 755. Come root lanciarlo e
attendere che la connessione avvenga. Per monitorare cosa accade si
può eseguire il comando

    tail -f /var/log/messages

per terminare il collegamento occorre uccidere il processo pppd. Con il comando:

    ps -ax | grep pppd

troviamo il suo PID mentre con:

    kill pid_di_pppd

terminare il processo e quindi la connessione.

* Se sei un abbonato Internet Flat, dovrai digitare il numero 7022334455
\end{CUT AND PASTE}

And at the end the * says that if the other number(s) do not work try
the one there
7022334455

If you have done this, where is that the connection fails?
One thing do please do not give up.

Regards,

Antonio

On Jan 4, 2008 11:33 AM, Alessandro <aricci@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thank you Marvin, Jacques, Antonio.
>
> I followed all instruction without any result. Still getting the same
> kind of logs.
>
> I tried a 3rd ISP (tiscali.it), same results.
>
> I tested all 3 ISP on Win and the connection details are OK.
>
> The only thing I found is the attached script on the Tiscali website,
> but I have no idea of what to do with that. The only instruction is to
> fill it with own details, make it executable with chmod 755 and then use
> it to connect.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 2:07 PM, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Alessandro,
> > Please give me the name of your ISP (internet service provider) and if
> > possible its URL (http:/....
> > What is this thing : EUTELIA Spa ? Your ISP?
>
> might be
> http://www.eutelia.it/tlc/
> There are instructions for linux
> http://www.eutelia.it/tlc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=119&Itemid=83&lang=it
>
> He needs the following:
>     *  il numero di telefono per raggiungere il server PPP, 702 1010 777
>     * gli IP Address dei DNS: 62.94.0.1 (primario) 62.94.0.2
> (secondario)
>     * assicurarsi di essere loggati come root.
>
> The number to dial is this one 7021010777
> Add to /etc/resolv.conf the following lines:
>
> nameserver 62.94.0.1
> nameserver 62.94.0.2
>
> Then everything should work hopefully :).  Alessandro please report
> back success/failure what is working/what is not working.  This should
> help get you online.
>
> Regards/cordiali saluti,
>
> Antonio
>
> > Are you SURE that you call the right phone number?
> > Have you tried to add a line
> > Stupid Mode = yes
> > in your file wvdial.conf ?
> > Perhaps your ISP equipment is obsolete and expects you to start login
> > rather than wait for the ISP to start?
> >
> >
> > Alessandro wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I followed Jacques hints and I keep getting the same kind of result.
> I
> > > disabled local network and used /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down to remove
> any
> > > reference to the router. I also changed ISP but no results, looks
> like
> > > my login details are not accepted and I'm sure about those.
> > >
> > > Here below the WvDial log with the alternative ISP.
> > >
> > > WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
> > > WvModem<*1>: Cannot set information for serial port.
> > > WvDial<*1>: Initializing modem.
> > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATZ
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATZ
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: OK
> > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: OK
> > > WvDial<*1>: Modem initialized.
> > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATDT<7090016403>
> > > WvDial<*1>: Waiting for carrier.
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT<7090016403>
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: CONNECT 460800
> > > WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:      _____________________
> > > _________________________________________________
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >
> --:::::::::::::::::::/| /                                                /|
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:    --:::::::::::::::::::// / --/  EUTELIA Spa ::
> > > Connecting Everywhere  /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >
> --:::::::::::::::::::// /                                                //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >
> --::::::::___________// /________________________________________________//
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: --::::::::/___________/ |
> > > ________________________________________________//
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ::::::::://______
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ::::::::::::::::/|       You have entered on
> > > nas5800-pd line 1/7/92
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ::::::::::::::://
> > > _________________________________________________
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: :::::::::::::://    / --/ Unauthorized Access To
> This
> > > Device is  /-- /|
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ::::_________//    / --/ PROHIBITED. All
> activities
> > > performed   /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: :::/_________/    / --/ on this device are logged.
> You
> > > must    /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: :://__________   / --/ have explicit permission to
> get
> > > access /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: :::::::::::::/| / --/ or configure this device.
> > > Violations   /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ::::::::::::// / --/ of this policy may results in
> > > serious  /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: :::::::::::// / --/ disciplinary action ( Eutelia
> > > O&M )    /-- //
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > > __________// /________________________________________________//
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: __________/  |
> > > ________________________________________________/
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: User Access Verification
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: Password:
> > > WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password prompt.
> > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: (password)
> > > WvDial Modem<*1>: % Authorization failed.
> > > WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier signal lost!  Retrying...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:15:15 +0200
> > >> From: Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx>
> > >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686;=20
> > >> en-US; rv:1.8.0.12) Gecko/20071019 Red=20
> > >> Hat/1.5.0.12-0.5.el4 Thunderbird/1.5.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666
> > >> To: Alessandro Ricci <aricci_arch@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Cc: discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Re: Connection problem
> > >>
> > >> Alessandro, just think.
> > >>
> > >> Suppose you want to send me a real paper letter.
> > >> You can use your local post office or you can send a messenger on a
> > >> Vespa.
> > >> How can a computer decide which one to use?
> > >>
> > >> Your Belkin router connects you to the internet.=20
> > >> Its settings are kept when you try to dial.
> > >>
> > >> Before starting your analog modem, give the command
> > >> /sbin/route -n
> > >> which will show routing to 192.168.2.1 , your Belkin router.
> > >> Now start the analog modem and again   /sbin/route  -n
> > >> Now stop your analog modem
> > >> Now give the command  /sbin/ifconfig
> > >> It will almost certainly show the Belkin interface as eth0 ,
> possibly
> > >> eth1.
> > >> Assuming eth0 is correct, do   /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down
> > >> Repeat  /sbin/ifconfig to see that the eth block has disappeared
> > >> And now try to dial.
> > >>
> > >> As you quoted it yourself, you only need the=20
> > >> analog modem when you have no LAN (usually no=20
> > >> ADSL, but could be an organisation internel LAN).
> > >> So for testing just disable the LAN interface.
> > >>
> > >> Jacques
> > >>
> > >> Alessandro Ricci wrote:
> > >>> Hello there,
> > >>> Further to the last comments by Marvin and=20
> > >>> Antonio I checked the resolv.conf file, that looks as follows:
> > >>>  >>>
> > >>> # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
> > >>> search Belkin
> > >>> nameserver 192.168.2.1
> > >>>  >>>
> > >>> These are the settings of my home lan. I entered the network
> > >> manager and
> > >>> setup a separate dialup network, but looks like I can't bypass
> > >> the
> > >>> router settings. May this be the reason of my problems? If
> > >> positive how
> > >>> can I get the 2 items to live together? In the=20
> > >>> end I just want to undersatand if I can send a=20
> > >>> fax while connected to the home lan
> > >> or, at
> > >>> least, if I can choose which service to activate...
> > >>> Thanks again,
> > >>> Alessandro
> > >>>
> > >>> WvDial<Notice>: Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd
> > >> and hoping for the
> > >>> best. WvDial<Notice>: Starting pppd at Sun Dec 30 13:04:14
> > >> 2007
> > >>> WvDial<Notice>: Pid of pppd: 6427 WvDial<*1>: Using
> > >> interface ppp0
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: pppd:
> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08]=
> > >  WvDial<*1>:
> > >> pppd:
> > >>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] WvDial<*1>:
> pppd:
> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08]
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: pppd:
> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08]=
> > >  WvDial<*1>:
> > >> pppd:
> > >>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] WvDial<*1>:=
> > >  Disconnecting at Sun Dec
> > >> 30 13:04:19
> > >>> 2007 WvDial<*1>: The PPP daemon has died: Authentication
> > >> error.
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: We failed to authenticate ourselves to the peer.
> > >> WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Maybe bad account or password? (exit code =3D 19) WvDial<*1>:
> > >> man pppd
> > >>> explains pppd error codes in more detail. WvDial<Notice>: I
> > >> guess that's
> > >>> it for now, exiting WvDial<Notice>: The PPP daemon has died.
> > >> (exit code
> > >>> =3D 19) Alessandro, Marvin is correct in his=20
> > >>> determination with your problem.  Whenever we=20
> > >>> get (exit code =3D 19), it means that we
> > >> failed to
> > >>> authenticate ourselves to the the peer.  Also it would help, if
> > >> you know
> > >>> ahead of time what your ISP wants so that you can have it at hand,
> > >> i.e,
> > >>> like nameservers in file /etc/resolv.conf, i used to get a bunch
> > >> of
> > >>> problems to connect and as soon as I with the help of Jacques,
> > >> Marv and
> > >>> others on the list, we managed to fix our=20
> > >>> problem. As soon as you determine that the=20
> > >>> settings of your wvdial.conf file are correct
> > >> with
> > >>> username and password, then you can browse Jacques's post
> > >> install page
> > >>> to get pointers to fix your problem=20
> > >>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/post-install.html Also as soon as
> > >> you
> > >>> know which nameservers your ISP uses, you can=20
> > >>> place them into /etc/resolv.conf file: for=20
> > >>> instance, I use the following:=20
> > >>> [olivares@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver
> > >> 66.201.0.203
> > >>> nameserver 12.176.80.9 nameserver 168.215.176.2=20
> > >>> http://www.awesomenet.net/support_serversettings.html Regards,
> > >> Antonio
> > >>> On Jan 1, 2008 7:21 PM, Marvin Stodolsky
> > >> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> wrote: > Alessandro > > WvDial<*1>: Carrier
> > >> detected.  Waiting for
> > >>> prompt. > WvDial Modem<*1>: ** Ascend TNT Terminal Server
> > >> ** > WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: System Password: > WvDial<*1>: Looks
> > >> like a password prompt.
> > >>>  > > This looks as if your LoginName was not sent, so the
> > >> following >
> > >>> password would not be adequate.  Make sure your LoginName is in
> > >> the >
> > >>> setup script > we recommend working directly with wvdial,
> > >> rather than
> > >>> front ends to wvdial. > Below is a typical  /etc/wvdial.conf
> > >>>> MarvS >
> > >>>  > > [Dialer Defaults] > Init1 =3D ATZ > Init2 =3D ATQ0 V1
> > >> E1 S0=3D0 &C1 &D2
> > >>> +FCLASS=3D0 > Modem Type =3D Analog Modem > Baud =3D 460800 >
> > >> New PPPD =3D yes >
> > >>> Modem =3D /dev/modem > ISDN =3D 0 > Phone =3D 8283180110 >
> > >> Password =3D
> > >>> LoginPassWord > Username =3D LoginName@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >
> > >>>>>>> On
> > >>> Jan 1, 2008 4:44 PM, Alessandro <aricci@xxxxxxx> wrote: >
> > >>> Hello
> > >>> everybody and thank you for your help. > > > > I
> > >> followed the given
> > >>> instruction. Now the modem is recognized for sure. > > When
> > >> I try
> > >>> dialling out everything is working, the number is dialled and >
> > >>> the
> > >>> carrier is there. Anyway looks like I can't complete the
> > >> procedure > >
> > >>> and in the end I can't get the connection. Here below the
> > >> output of > >
> > >>> WvDial from terminal and the log of GnomePPP, maybe you can help
> > >> me and
> > >>>  > > suggest what to check. > > > > Thanks again
> > >> for your help and happy
> > >>> new year. > > > > Alessandro > > > >
> > >> (WVDIAL OUTPUT) > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56 > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> Initializing modem.
> > >>>  > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATZ > > WvDial
> > >> Modem<*1>: ATZ > > WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: OK > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATQ0 V1
> > >> E1 S0=3D0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=3D0
> > >>>  > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=3D0 &C1 &D2
> > >> +FCLASS=3D0 > > WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: OK > > WvDial<*1>: Modem initialized.
> > >>>> WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Sending: ATDT<7020001033> > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> Waiting for carrier. > >
> > >>> WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT<7020001033> > > WvDial
> > >> Modem<*1>: CONNECT 460800
> > >>>  > > WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for
> > >> prompt. > > WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: ** Ascend TNT Terminal Server ** > > WvDial
> > >> Modem<*1>: System
> > >>> Password: > > WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password
> > >> prompt. > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Sending: (password) > > WvDial Modem<*1>: System
> > >> Password: > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password prompt. > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Sending:
> > >>> (password) > > WvDial Modem<*1>: System Password: >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Looks
> > >>> like a password prompt. > > WvDial<*1>: Sending:
> > >> (password) > >
> > >>> WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier signal lost!
> > >> Retrying... > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATDT<7020001033> > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Waiting for
> > >>> carrier. > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT<7020001033>
> > >>>> WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >>> CONNECT 460800 > > WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.
> > >> Waiting for prompt. >
> > >>>  > WvDial Modem<*1>: ** Ascend TNT Terminal Server **
> > >>>> WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: System Password: > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> Looks like a password
> > >>> prompt. > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: (password) > >
> > >> WvDial Modem<*1>: System
> > >>> Password: > > WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password
> > >> prompt. > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Sending: (password) > > WvDial<Notice>: Don't know
> > >> what to do!  Starting
> > >>> pppd and hoping for the > > best. > >
> > >> WvDial<Notice>: Starting pppd at
> > >>> Sun Dec 30 13:04:14 2007 > > WvDial<Notice>: Pid of
> > >> pppd: 6427 > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Using interface ppp0 > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> pppd:
> > >>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] > > WvDial<*1>:
> > > pppd:
> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: pppd:
> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: pppd:
> > >>> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] > > WvDial<*1>:
> > > pppd:
> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD[06][08]=C3=88=E2=80=BA[06][08] > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Disconnecting at Sun Dec 30 13:04:19 2007 >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> The PPP daemon has died: Authentication error. > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: We failed
> > >>> to authenticate ourselves to the peer. > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> Maybe bad account
> > >>> or password? (exit code =3D 19) > > WvDial<*1>: man pppd
> > >> explains pppd
> > >>> error codes in more detail. > > WvDial<Notice>: I
> > >> guess that's it for
> > >>> now, exiting > > WvDial<Notice>: The PPP daemon has
> > >> died. (exit code =3D
> > >>> 19) > > > > > > (GNOMEPPP LOG) > >
> > >> /home/alessandro/.wvdial.conf<Warn>:
> > >>> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do > > NOT edit this
> > >> file by hand!" > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56 > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Initializing modem. > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATX3 >
> > >>> WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >>> ATX3 > > WvDial Modem<*1>: OK > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=3D0
> > >>> &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=3D0 > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATQ0
> > >> V1 E1 S0=3D0 &C1 &D2
> > >>> +FCLASS=3D0 > > WvDial Modem<*1>: OK > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Modem initialized. >
> > >>>  > WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATM1L1DT7020001033 > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Waiting for
> > >>> carrier. > > WvDial Modem<*1>: ATM1L1DT7020001033 >
> > >>> WvDial Modem<*1>:
> > >>> CONNECT 460800 > > WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.
> > >> Waiting for prompt. >
> > >>>  > WvDial Modem<*1>: ** Ascend TNT Terminal Server **
> > >>>> WvDial
> > >>> Modem<*1>: System Password: > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >> Looks like a password
> > >>> prompt. > > WvDial<*1>: Sending: (password) > >
> > >> WvDial Modem<*1>: System
> > >>> Password: > > WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password
> > >> prompt. > > WvDial<*1>:
> > >>> Sending: (password) > > WvDial Modem<*1>: System
> > >> Password: > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Looks like a password prompt. > >
> > >> WvDial<*1>: Sending:
> > >>> (password) > > WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier
> > >> signal lost! > >
> > >>> WvDial<*1>: Disconnecting at Sun Dec 30 13:23:02 2007 >
> > >>>  > On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 19:28 -0500, Marvin Stodolsky wrote:
> > >>> Alessandro, > > > > > >  For candidate modem in
> > >> PCI bus:  00:1b.0 > >
> > >>>  >    Class 0403: 8086:284b Audio device: Intel Corporation
> > >> 82801H > >
> > >>>  >       Primary PCI_id  8086:284b > > >     Subsystem
> > >> PCI_id  104d:9005
> > >>>  > > > has from=20
> > >>> /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 > > >=20
> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------  >
> > >>>> Codec:
> > >>> Conexant ID 2c06 > > > Address: 1 > > > Vendor
> > >> Id: 0x14f12c06 > > >
> > >>> ----------- > > > in the 104d:9005 Susbsystem. > >
> > >>>>>> So > > > For
> > >>> owners of a Dell PCs with Conexant HSF modems, a driver source
> > >>> package with full speed enabled is available, but requires driver
> > >>> compiling. But the Dell package may not yet be competent beyond
> > >> 2.6.1 >
> > >>>  > > kernels > > > > > > ALternatively
> > >>>>>  From > >
> > >>> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
> > >>>  >  download
> > > hsfmodem_VersionSpec_k2.6.22_14_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip =
> > >  >
> > >>>  >                            with 2.6.22_14_generic equivalent
> > >> to > > >
> > >>> 2.6.22-14-generic, your kernel version. > > >  Under
> > >> Linux unpack with:
> > >>>  > > >  $ unzip hsfmodem*.zip > > >  Then
> > >> install with: > > >  $ sudo
> > >>> dpkg -i hsfmodem*.deb > > >  Subsequently, the modem
> > >> should be found
> > >>> with > > >  $ sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf > >
> > >>>  Edit in your
> > >>> personal information with: > > >  $ sudo gedit
> > >> /etc/wvdial.conf > > >
> > >>> and try dialing out with: > > >  $ sudo wvdial. > >
> > >>>  See Testing.txt
> > >>> for details. > > > > > > MarvS > > >
> > >>>>> On Dec 28, 2007 3:57 PM,
> > >>> Alessandro <aricci@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hello
> > >> everybody, > > > > > >
> > >>>  > > Any chance to use this modem with Ubuntu? Right now I
> > >> connect to
> > >>> the > > > > internet through a home LAN router.
> > >> That's OK for the DSL
> > >>> but > > doesn't > > > > apply when I need an
> > >> analogic line (travelling,
> > >>> fax sending...). > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > >> for your help, > > > > > > > >
> > >>> Alessandro > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>


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