First I'll confess my sins, then I'll beg for help. I own a small wireless ISP, and I sell service at three levels, 256kb/s, 384kb/s, and 512kb/s. For about 18 months, I thought I had this bandwidth limiting figured out. I had three HTB classes off the root, one each with the limits above. Since each customer has a single IP address, I used iptables to mark packets destined for each subscriber with level 1,2 or 3. It looked like it worked great: Customer A got 256, B got 384, and C got his 512. In hindsight, it was wishful thinking, since ALL 256kb/s customers got dumped into the same 256 class and had to duke it out for that 256kb/s, instead of each customer getting their own 256kb/s slice. Eventually, as I added more customers, people started complaining that they weren't getting what they're paying for (rightly). So, now I'm running my ISP with no bandwidth shaping and I'm struggling to get my brain wrapped around how make sure everyone gets what they pay for, but not more. >From the reading I've done, it looks like I need a separate class for each subscriber. Inside that class, I'd like to have a standard set of queues to prioritize each customer's slice of bandwidth by port (typical three band stuff: interactive, web,bulk). So assuming I've got three customers: 10.0.0.10 gets256kb/s 10.0.0.11 gets 386 kb/s 10.0.0.12 gets 256kb/s I think I'd have a tree like this: CLASS 10 (256kb/s) (inner classes prioritize) ROOT ----- CLASS 11(384kb/s) " CLASS 12 (256kb/s) " plus three filters to direct iptables-marked traffic to the appropriate queue and three iptables entries to mark the traffic appropriately. The problem is, I'm simply not smart enough to actually IMPLEMENT this. I tried setting up the HTB classes, and when I added the 5th one (class 15 in the little diagram above), my interactivity to the router went to near 1000ms RTT (I was ssh'ed into it). I started getting calls from my customers immediately saying something was 'wrong with the internet'. I'm not sure what happened, since I hadn't installed any filters or anything. Anyway, I'd dearly appreciate some help on this. Surely this is a nut that someone has already cracked, but for the life of me all I can find on the internet are how-to shape your own outbound traffic to your ISP so your P2P traffic (the BANE of ISPs) doesn't interfere with your Doom3 deathmatch. Thanks in advance, John Gorkos _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.ds9a.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lartc