I have a Cable 'modem' that has a problem that many of these devices is bound to have. I was wondering what other lartc user thought about this and if DSL has simular problems. Cable, being Asymetrical, is able to upload at a given rate and hopefully has a buffer, in the modem, of some kind. When I nc(netcat) to a UDP echo, or discard, server I get about 10Mbps out on my ethernet, but only 256Kbps acctualy receved(reported by an open echo server). Other traffic on the link suffers grately from this, so I don't do it oftan :) I use htb to curve this and that seams to work nice. NO REALY MY CABLE MODEM DOSEN'T MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO, CALL FOR HELP, CONTROL THE FLOW(aka flow-control, supported by ethernet and rs-232). TCP workes a bit better, but not if I use more then 7 uploads at once. With more then 7 the rate detection, read about this on your own time, generates more than 3(The TCP limit for 'giving up') * 7(The number of connectios) of these droped/missing packets that every connection gives up. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/