On Wednesday 12 March 2003 18:07, Ben Clewett wrote: > I need (or would at lest live very much :) to use two Classless Queues > in series. > > I can't see in the HOWTO how this is done, but guess at something like: > > tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: sfq (etc) > tc qdisk add dev eth0 parent 1: tbf (etc) > > Am I on the right lines here? Not really. Like Martin said, some qdiscs can contain classes (htb/cbq). You can add a second qdisc on that classes. In fact, each leaf class contains a qdisc. By default this is a pfifo qdisc, but you can replace it with a classfull qdisc. And you can add a third qdisc to the classes of that second qdisc and so on. But each qdisc introduces a new queue so extra delays. > I also have a small problem with TBF... From the HOWTO sec 9.2.2, it is > surgested that a value for the 'burst' should be: > > "For 10mbit/s on Intel, you need at least 10kbyte buffer if you want to > reach your configured rate!" > > Therefore: burst => rate * (8 / 1000) > > However, I find using this I get stall on ftp and other common > protocols, when they get above the throttle rate, with low bandwidths > (eg, 64kbit/sec). -- Or I completelly fail to understand the above > statement... The minimal burst is the amount of packets you can check between 2 updates. And this depends on the internal clock used by the kernel. Say this clock checks the rate each 1/10 second. And you have a rate of 1mbit/s. Then you need a minimal burst of 0.1mbit. If your burst is lower, say 0.05mbit, you only can send 0.05mbit each time your timer checks the tbf so you have a rate of 0.5mbit/s. > Does any person have a better method for calculating a good value for > 'buffer' ? No. But the bigger the buffer, the more time a packet can stay in the bufffer so the deay can go up. Stef -- stef.coene@xxxxxxxxx "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net