On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:59:38AM +0100, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: > TCP is generally too smart to be delayed proper by "randomly" dropped packets > without any signs in RTT. Especially when the RTT is small. Richard Stevens disagrees with you. > And such a administrative boundary is the one I am playing on. The boundary > between a small customer and his ISP. The ISP obviously have the luxury of > egress, but the customer does not on traffic received by him. > > Exacly how would this need vanish? You can turn ingress into egress by inserting another machine of course. Ingress shaping, well, is weird if you have no concept of an 'ingress queue'. Regards, bert -- http://www.PowerDNS.com Versatile DNS Software & Services Trilab The Technology People Netherlabs BV / Rent-a-Nerd.nl - Nerd Available - 'SYN! .. SYN|ACK! .. ACK!' - the mating call of the internet