hi, folks. a brief overview of the network: powermac g3 running linux 2.4.0-test11. ("macachu") ppp0: cablemodem upstream (roadrunneresque) eth0: cablemodem eth1: local network generic win laptop old sun machines (sparc 4, 5, 10, and 20) a bay networks 32-port switch, 10/100. macachu is running dhcpd, which is fine. everybody is visible to everybody else on the internal network. macachu is visible to the outside network. nobody else can get out. i set up the machine per the excellent howto at: http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Home-Network-mini-HOWTO.html and then went to go through the howto on the LARTC-list homepage. I joined the list about two weeks ago, knowing I was going to get myself into this when I started using the 2.4.0 kernel and the advanced router. I followed the instructions on the LARTC howto, but I'm stuck. I built the latest package from ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/, so I've got all the binaries, and everything checks out... but I feel completely clueless because the howto doesnt explain the steps necessary to get from adding the item to /etc/iproute2/rt_table to actually being able to ping from 192.168.0.2 to any outside address. im not sure where to go. any heads up would be appreciated. even clue-by-fours. thanks. alex -- alex avriette [alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] "No man who uses EMACS is deserving of love." Tom Christiansen <tchrist@xxxxxxxx>, _Perl Cookbook_, pp. 653