Re: [PATCH V2 RFC 3/3] kvm: Check system load and handle different commit cases accordingly

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On 10/29/2012 11:24 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 19:37 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
+/*
+ * A load of 2048 corresponds to 1:1 overcommit
+ * undercommit threshold is half the 1:1 overcommit
+ * overcommit threshold is 1.75 times of 1:1 overcommit threshold
+ */
+#define COMMIT_THRESHOLD (FIXED_1)
+#define UNDERCOMMIT_THRESHOLD (COMMIT_THRESHOLD >> 1)
+#define OVERCOMMIT_THRESHOLD ((COMMIT_THRESHOLD << 1) -
(COMMIT_THRESHOLD >> 2))
+
+unsigned long kvm_system_load(void)
+{
+       unsigned long load;
+
+       load = avenrun[0] + FIXED_1/200;
+       load = load / num_online_cpus();
+
+       return load;
+}

ARGH.. no that's wrong.. very wrong.

  1) avenrun[] EXPORT_SYMBOL says it should be removed, that's not a
joke.

Okay.

  2) avenrun[] is a global load, do not ever use a global load measure

This makes sense. Using a local optimization that leads to near global
optimization is the way to go.


  3) avenrun[] has nothing what so ever to do with runqueue lengths,
someone with a gazillion tasks in D state will get a huge load but the
cpu is very idle.


I used loadavg as an alternative measure. But the above condition
poses a concern for that.

Okay, now IIUC, usage of *any* global measure is bad?

Because I was also thinking to use nrrunning()/ num_online_cpus(), to
get an idea of global overcommit sense. (ofcourse since, this involves
iteration over per CPU nrrunning, I wanted to calculate this
periodically)

The overall logic, of having overcommit_threshold, undercommit_threshold, I wanted to use for even dynamic ple_window tuning purpose.

so logic was:
< undercommit_threshold => 16k ple_window
> overcommit_threshold  => 4k window.
for in between case scale the ple_window accordingly.

The alternative was to decide depending on how ple handler succeeded in
yield_to. But I thought, that is too sensitive and more overhead.

This topic may deserve different thread, but thought I shall table it here.

So, Thinking about the alternatives to implement, logic such as

(a) if(undercommitted)
    just go back and spin rather than going for yield_to iteration.
(b) if (overcommitted)
   better to yield rather than  spinning logic

   of current patches..

[ ofcourse, (a) is already met to large extent by your patches..]

So I think everything boils down to

"how do we measure these two thresholds without much overhead in a
compliant way"

Ideas welcome..

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