On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:27:52AM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 10/29/2012 11:24 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 19:37 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> >>+/*
> >>+ * A load of 2048 corresponds to 1:1 overcommit
> >>+ * undercommit threshold is half the 1:1 overcommit
> >>+ * overcommit threshold is 1.75 times of 1:1 overcommit threshold
> >>+ */
> >>+#define COMMIT_THRESHOLD (FIXED_1)
> >>+#define UNDERCOMMIT_THRESHOLD (COMMIT_THRESHOLD >> 1)
> >>+#define OVERCOMMIT_THRESHOLD ((COMMIT_THRESHOLD << 1) -
> >>(COMMIT_THRESHOLD >> 2))
> >>+
> >>+unsigned long kvm_system_load(void)
> >>+{
> >>+ unsigned long load;
> >>+
> >>+ load = avenrun[0] + FIXED_1/200;
> >>+ load = load / num_online_cpus();
> >>+
> >>+ return load;
> >>+}
> >
> >ARGH.. no that's wrong.. very wrong.
> >
> > 1) avenrun[] EXPORT_SYMBOL says it should be removed, that's not a
> >joke.
>
> Okay.
>
> > 2) avenrun[] is a global load, do not ever use a global load measure
>
> This makes sense. Using a local optimization that leads to near global
> optimization is the way to go.
>
> >
> > 3) avenrun[] has nothing what so ever to do with runqueue lengths,
> >someone with a gazillion tasks in D state will get a huge load but the
> >cpu is very idle.
> >
>
> I used loadavg as an alternative measure. But the above condition
> poses a concern for that.
>
> Okay, now IIUC, usage of *any* global measure is bad?
>
> Because I was also thinking to use nrrunning()/ num_online_cpus(), to
> get an idea of global overcommit sense. (ofcourse since, this involves
> iteration over per CPU nrrunning, I wanted to calculate this
> periodically)
>
> The overall logic, of having overcommit_threshold,
> undercommit_threshold, I wanted to use for even dynamic ple_window
> tuning purpose.
>
> so logic was:
> < undercommit_threshold => 16k ple_window
> > overcommit_threshold => 4k window.
> for in between case scale the ple_window accordingly.
>
> The alternative was to decide depending on how ple handler succeeded in
> yield_to. But I thought, that is too sensitive and more overhead.
>
> This topic may deserve different thread, but thought I shall table it here.
>
> So, Thinking about the alternatives to implement, logic such as
>
> (a) if(undercommitted)
> just go back and spin rather than going for yield_to iteration.
> (b) if (overcommitted)
> better to yield rather than spinning logic
>
> of current patches..
>
> [ ofcourse, (a) is already met to large extent by your patches..]
>
> So I think everything boils down to
>
> "how do we measure these two thresholds without much overhead in a
> compliant way"
>
> Ideas welcome..
>
What happened to Avi's preempt notifier idea for determining
under/overcommit? If nobody has picked that up yet, then I'll go ahead and
try to prototype it.
Drew
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