On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 16:05 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 07/14/2011 04:00 PM, Sasha Levin wrote: > > > > > > Why? virtio is mature. It's not some early boot thing which fails and > > > kills the guest. Even if you get an oops, usually the guest is still alive. > > > > virtio is mature, /tools/kvm isn't :) > > > > > > > It's not just virtio which can fail running on virtio-console, it's also > > > > the threadpool, the eventfd mechanism and even the PCI management > > > > module. You can't really debug it if you can't depend on your debugging > > > > mechanism to properly work. > > > > > > Wait, those are guest things, not host things. > > > > Yes, as you said in the previous mail, both KVM and virtio are very > > stable. /tools/kvm was the one who was being debugged most of the time. > > I still don't follow. The guest oopses? dmesg | less. An issue with > tools/kvm? gdb -p `pgrep kvm`. When I was debugging tools/kvm virtio code, I used to 'instrument' the guest kernel with printk() calls which helped a lot. Also, a bug in tools/kvm can manifest in many interesting ways in the guest kernel during boot, for example. You can't do dmesg then and gdb won't save you. I think you've lived too long in the table KVM and Qemu land to remember how important reliable printk() is for development. Pekka -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html