* Pekka Enberg <penberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> There are all kernel space projects, going through Xorg would be a > >>>> horrible waste of performance for full-screen virtualization. It's fine > >>>> for the windowed or networked case (and good as a compatibility > >>>> fallback), but very much not fine for local desktop use. > >> > >> For the full-screen case (which is a very common mode of using a guest OS > >> on the desktop) there's not much of window management needed. You need to > >> save/restore as you switch in/out. > > > > I don't think I've ever used full-screen mode with my VMs and I use > > virtualization on a daily basis. > > > > We hear very infrequently from users using full screen mode. > > Sorry for getting slightly off-topic but I find the above statement > interesting. > > I don't use virtualization on daily basis but a working, fully integrated > full-screen model with VirtualBox was the only reason I bothered to give VMs > a second chance. From my point of view, the user experience of earlier > versions (e.g. Parallels) was just too painful to live with. That's the same i do, and that's what i'm hearing from other desktop users as well. The moment you work seriously in a guest OS you often want to switch to it full-screen, to maximize screen real-estate and to reduce host GUI element distractions. If it's just casual use of a single app then windowed mode suffices (but in that case performance doesnt matter much to begin with). I find the 'KVM mostly cares about the server, not about the desktop' attitude expressed in this thread troubling. > /me crawls back to his hole now... /me should do that too - this discussion is not resulting in any positive result so it has become rather pointless. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html