Re: Configure languages for desktop in the shell?

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Hi,
sorry for not following up for so long, but the last months were .. stressy.

Am 02.01.23 um 08:47 schrieb Duncan:
A general answer that will hopefully point you in the right direction if
nobody has an answer more specific to your situation...

While I'm (effectively) English mono-lingual and haven't needed to deal
with L10N much personally so my experience there is limited, I've found
the kde admin guide very helpful in other areas, and expect it should be
in this area for those who need it as well.  (That said, much of this was
originally written for kde3 or earlier and updated for kde4 and kde/
plasma5, so keep that in mind and for instance emphasize the newer XDG
spec locations that kde/plasma5 and certainly the upcoming 6 are likely to
use, over the older kde-specific ones from the 3 era, with 4 starting to
transition to XDG but leaning toward the old ones and 5 mostly
transitioned to XDG but with a few untransitioned exceptions.)


I am used to that. I am using KDE for some time now (like... almost 13
years?) :D.

https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration

Plus some general observations:

1) KDE's config is (almost) entirely text-based, generally ini-style, so
provided you can find the file (which the above admin guide should help
with, that and a bit of hands-on experimentation has always done it for
me), it's pretty much a given that you can text-edit it from the shell/
text-editor/script.

The thing is though, i do not want to see all that visual stuff again,
once i figured out which ini files should be changed. I want to set it
to stone with some bash/ansible files and redo it after a reinstall of
my DesktopVM. And this is quite arcane and i know from the past, there
ARE sometimes efforts to support it with commandline tooling, but it was
never consistent.

I would also be fine if there's a default setting after installation and
the Setting Center (or whatever it is called) can create a diff after
configuration which can be imported.

But set the configuration manually again... is tedious.
Even if it is ini-files, because there are changes which are important
and there are ones which are not. (or are only important internally for
applications)


2) I /believe/ (with the initial caveat above...) that for the
unconfigured user case, kde should default to system L10N defaults as set
in the usual $LANG, $LANGUAGE, etc, environmental vars.  So if it's a case
of just setting initial defaults that a user can reconfigure from later if
desired, I'd be /quite/ surprised if (barring the occasional bug) just
setting those correctly didn't "just work".

"just work" is for the standard configuration. But KDE _does_ provide
quite some configuration possibilities which it maintains also now for
quite a while. Why not support it with something which can be transfered
easily between machines? or with some cli/shell tooling?


3) Of course the kiosk mode discussed in the admin guide can (often) be
used to prevent user modification of settings if that's desired, as well.
(Again the caveat, but doubled in this case since I've neither l10n nor
kiosk-mode-naildown experience.  I only know of kiosk mode from seeing it
in the admin guide.)

Kiosk mode is only adressing it in part. I automate my desktop setup,
but i do not use a Kiosk. But automating screen resolution, notification
area and language should be doable without copying stuff from .config
from machine to machine (be it metal or VM).

Kind regards,
Dennis




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