On 2023-01-23 18:01:05 Duncan wrote: > Duncan posted on Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:21:17 -0000 (UTC) as excerpted: > > Consider the possible security side-effects. As an example, consider a > > browser password dialog (say for firefox's master password, if you have > > it setup). Often you want it raised so you see it and can enter the > > password, but the browser folks ultimately had to change their behavior > > a bit because bad sites were trying to trigger popups without browser > > chrome and setup to appear just like the default password dialogs, in > > ordered to steal people's passwords. > > Realized on reading that as posted that it implies the browser folks had > to change their behavior regarding raising the password dialog. That > wasn't intended and (AFAIK) isn't necessarily accurate (I unintentionally > made a statement I can't initially verify one way or the other). > > What I /intended/ to say was that in my chosen example, they had to change > both password dialogs and their general web-page-popup behavior, primarily > web-page-popup appearance, to ensure that web-page-popups were distinct > enough from system dialogs (password and other, browser and not) that > there was no confusion, and that while raising and focus behavior may in > the abstract be different from that, be careful that any changes to focus > behavior rules you make, don't inadvertently neutralize behavior they may > have instituted due to security concerns that might be unrelated to the > particular example I named. > > IOW, just be aware that a browser is arguably the most security exposed > sensitive app most people commonly run, and that any changes you make to > its default behavior, including apparently security-unrelated changes, may > have unintended consequences in terms of its security posture. With that > awareness and assuming a reasonable security sense that unfortunately many > folks don't seem to have (but just the fact that someone's posting/reading > here suggests a higher likelihood they do, due to self-selection meaning > the least security-aware wouldn't be here in the first place), proceeding > cautiously should be reasonable, but be particularly alert for unusual or > unexpected behavior for awhile after that, just in case. Maybe the browser folks could provide a way for the user to replace e..g. an icon on such sensitive popups, with their own custom image, that couldn't be matched by malware? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64)