René J.V. Bertin posted on Mon, 25 Oct 2021 13:57:26 +0200 as excerpted: > Pity you didn't post screenshots. I'm not seeing (much) vertical screen > waste in the window titlebars, not with my QtCurve theme in any case. In > fact, (much) less padding would probably start looking weird; there's > certainly no margin to get an extra line of text for instance. Well, try Noto Sans font, 10 pt (I tried 8 pt but it was too small, 9 pt took the same vertical px spacing as 10, and 11 jumped vertical size again, so 10 it was), regular, 100% scale @ a standard 96 dpi (tho the real dpi is 60-ish on the 4k 75"), no sub-pixel-antialiasing. 15 px high titlebars. Without the patch it was ~30 px! I can see the bottom horizontal swingline of a lower-case g, but it's on the bottom px and in fact looks like it may continue below the line by a px. There's two px clearance below normal letters. Numbers and most uppercase letters have a 1 px clearance above, while letters like l (that's el, not one or capital eye) extend the extra px as does the dot on the i. The titlebar has a slightly ligher colored px above that but I believe it's the 3D effect and I'm not sure whether the text could extend into it or not. So ASCII's very readable as I believe any "western" alphabet would be, but I'm not sure about pictographs/emoji/etc. But ideally it'd be an option and the default could stay as-is, so they'd not be affected unless someone specifically set it to such. And while the sweeps are visible there's no margin at all, which could be bad especially if the titlebar color blends with the application color -- it does not, here. I'd not want that sort of spacing for multi-line, *definitely* not for more than 2-3 lines, but for a single-line titlebar that I want as vertically short as possible while still being easily readable, it's my preferred. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman