On Wednesday 25 March 2009 05:36:31 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Wednesday 25 March 2009, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > > > Now it appears that, at least in OpenSuSE, this file gets overwritten > > > with the defaults (or the present settings, I don't know) when you > > > log out, so your changes are lost. > > > > I should first tell you that you should only edit the file when the > > session it is for is NOT running. This tends to be true of many > > configuration files for KDE (in 3.x.y as well). > > I suppose this means starting a Gnome (or other desktop) session, or first > killing X? > No. From a konsole (user) type 'kquitapp plasma && plasma'. Your desktop will disappear but konsole will stay visible. Do whatever editing you want to do (backup the file first in case of problems), then restart plasma with 'plasma'. > (...) > > > Starting at 0, there is a problem that the KDE-4 project doesn't start > > at 0. If this was a new independent project and we had released version > > 0.2.1, nobody would be complaining since users would figure that when it > > got to 1.0.0 that it would probably work correctly. So, we really > > shouldn't call this KDE-4.x.y, it should be called KDE4-0.x.y. > > I absolutely agree. Being an ex-OS/2 user I've always thought it should > have been called KDE/2, and it should have been said that KDE 3.x would > remain (but no more be developped) and /2 would eventually be the > successor. > > I plainly trust the developpers to make KDE 4 a wonderful piece of software > (in the end), but I doubt it will be there in 0.4.3 (pardon, 4.3) and > Distribution makers like Novell (pardon, OpenSuSE) said they want to go > "KDE 4 only" as of their next release. > > If I have to upgrade my distribution (this may be necessary depending on > hardware) I will probably swith to Gnome and ... may never come back > (what's more, you can perfectly start KDE 4 apps from Gnome). > > One way or the other, I'll miss KDE 3 features, so the winner will be > either the one that makes me loose less, or the one that brings me some > killer feature. For the time being, the only one I found in 4.2 is the > possibility to have two clocks on my two screns that are set do different > timezones... > For me there is no 'killer app', but lots of feature improvements, the sum of which make it much more enjoyable and convenient than KDE3 was. It's a sort- of 'grow-on-you' as you find yourself gradually discovering features that work for you and you use a lot. The pivotal moment is when you find yourself working on a KDE3 desktop and cursing because the newly-created habits are no longer working. > That's not enough fo me at the moment, and while I thank all the > contributors to this thread for sharing their thoughts, it seems to me > ovious that they have to _think_ to show a feature that makes KDE 4 > sensible "against" KDE 3 > Not so. We did not have to 'think' any more than we would have to for any question. Someone else remarked on the many features of dolphin - there was no point in my repeating his comments. And so on, and so on. I think the real problem is that you don't discover the advantages until you've used it for a while, and many people don't stick with it long enough to make the discovery. All is not perfect, but then it never was. I always said that 'bling' does not attract me - I never bothered with compiz, for instance - but this steady adding of features that are genuinely useful make KDE4 the desktop of choice for me. It won't be for everyone, but that's life :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase
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