OK, so I don't want to start one of those flame wars, I just look for clear answers. Who am I: a Linux user since 1999, and using KDE from version 0.4 I sticked to 3.5.x until now, but I decided to give 4 a try (I used OpenSuSE 11.1 in case that matters). I even decided to go so far and try to tweak the plasma-applettsrc file as many mails pointed to the fact that some settings could only be made there (beta smell to me, but well...). Now it appears that, at least in OpenSuSE, this file gets overwritten with the defaults (or the present settings, I don't know) when you log out, so your changes are lost. So, before I waste more time with this piece of code, I want to ask a clear question, and I would welcome clear answers: ******************************************************************* What new features make KDE 4 interresting to you !?!? ******************************************************************* I have read _lots_ of mails saying "KDE 4 rocks", and have read the Wiki too, but really, honestly, I can't see anyone naming clearly what the gains are supposed to be, and all I can see are missing features (I mean things I could do with 3.5.x and I can't do anymore) and "useless" new features (useless to ME, that is): desktop effects, tagging possibilities, plasmoids, etc... I understand that under the hood many things have been "improved". So I'd be interrested to find out if I am simply completely out of the main stream (what's important to most people is not to me) or if KDE got caught with some Apple fever (Everything in KDE 4 is great and those who don't say this are bad believers). My bottom line is: either what the developers create is the majority's taste, and if it's not mine I just have to go look elsewhere (I did that with Windows and Mac, so no problem). Or the developers are really missing the point and I guess they should realise before they loose a good part of their users. Thierry ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.