Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Thursday 15 December 2005 01:46, Pierre Ossman wrote:
>
>>I got a tip from Aaron Seigo (through Inge Wallin) which solves the
>>problem, but still indicates something funky with KDE or Fedora. If I
>>set the XDG_ environment variables, then everything works fine. It also
>>continues to work fine once I remove them.
>
>
> it will only continue to work fine until you install a new piece of software,
> change your menu layout, or somehow otherwise invalidate the data in the
> sycoca. at that point it will be regenerated and you'll be back to where you
> started =)
>
I guess it's persistent then because I restart KDE between these tests.
>
>>Aaron said these were required by the XDG standard, but that isn't the
>>case so I'm starting so suspect that KDE makes some false assumptions
>>here. (I haven't gotten hold of Aaron yet to comment on this.)
>
>
> the only time you don't need those variables set is when everything is stored
> within the installation prefix. if the XDG variables are set, the also
> override that default IIRC. in any case, most distributions scatter the data
> between /etc and $PREFIX and who knows where else. this is one of the
> "features" of the new system but it makes it a lot more fragile, as can be
> seen.
>
The basedir spec says that /etc/xdg and /usr/local/share:/usr/share are
the defaults, so it should work regardless of KDE's prefix.
>
>>It does seem strange to me that KDE can find the directory, but not
>>monitor it, without the environment variables. All or nothing would seem
>>more reasonable. :)
>
>
> knowing how your system is set up a bit better would be useful (i'm sure
> you've tolkd Inge and kde@xxxxxxx, but i'm privy to neither email
> addresses ;). in particular: what is you `kde-config --prefix`, where was
> the .desktop file in question stored (full path), what does `set | grep XDG`
> give you?
>
$ kde-config --prefix
/usr
$ set | grep XDG
$
File is stored as /usr/share/applications/tlclient.desktop
> i looked at the code this morning as i promissed Inge i would. seems we set
> watches only on the KStdDir dirs, and not the XDG ones as well unless those
> env vars are set. which might cause the behaviour you are seeing. i'm going
> to hunt down waldo and chat with him about it as this is his code.
>
Great. :)
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