Greetings; Fooling around in the 'control center' in the keyboard interpretation stuffs, I seem to have managed to get things a bit akilter. The most noticeable gotcha now is that the first press of the key immediately left of the return key, which on a US_EN keyboard contains the characters ' in the lowercase, and " in the shifted mode, is ignored unless the space bar is given a tap immediately after. This is apparently a global setting as it effects mozilla et all too. So what do I specifically turn off to disable such behaviour? If I give that key a second press, I get a different character, like this ´ and ¨ rather than ' and ". What I was looking for was to be able to type the copyright symbol and other such d7 set characters by using the alt key, but thats not working either, it gets me some kmail menu pulldowns instead. What I'd really like is a normal keyboard when the alt key isn't pressed, but switches to the alt character set typified by a set bit d7 in the normal ascii lookup tables when the alt key, either one, is pressed. If there is to be kde menu actions, qualify them with one or the other of the otherwise useless windows keys. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.