Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC PATCH 1/2] dma-fence: Avoid establishing a locking order between fence classes

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[Adding Daniel here as well]

Am 03.12.21 um 15:18 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
[SNIP]
Well that's ok as well. My question is why does this single dma_fence
then shows up in the dma_fence_chain representing the whole
migration?
What we'd like to happen during eviction is that we

1) await any exclusive- or moving fences, then schedule the migration
blit. The blit manages its own GPU ptes. Results in a single fence.
2) Schedule unbind of any gpu vmas, resulting possibly in multiple
fences.
3) Most but not all of the remaining resv shared fences will have been
finished in 2) We can't easily tell which so we have a couple of shared
fences left.

Stop, wait a second here. We are going a bit in circles.

Before you migrate a buffer, you *MUST* wait for all shared fences to complete. This is documented mandatory DMA-buf behavior.

Daniel and I have discussed that quite extensively in the last few month.

So how does it come that you do the blit before all shared fences are completed?

4) Add all fences resulting from 1) 2) and 3) into the per-memory-type
dma-fence-chain.
5) hand the resulting dma-fence-chain representing the end of migration
over to ttm's resource manager.

Now this means we have a dma-fence-chain disguised as a dma-fence out
in the wild, and it could in theory reappear as a 3) fence for another
migration unless a very careful audit is done, or as an input to the
dma-fence-array used for that single dependency.

That somehow doesn't seem to make sense because each individual step
of
the migration needs to wait for those dependencies as well even when
it
runs in parallel.

But that's not really the point, the point was that an (at least to
me) seemingly harmless usage pattern, be it real or fictious, ends
up
giving you severe internal- or cross-driver headaches.
Yeah, we probably should document that better. But in general I don't
see much reason to allow mixing containers. The dma_fence_array and
dma_fence_chain objects have some distinct use cases and and using
them
to build up larger dependency structures sounds really questionable.
Yes, I tend to agree to some extent here. Perhaps add warnings when
adding a chain or array as an input to array and when accidently
joining chains, and provide helpers for flattening if needed.

Yeah, that's probably a really good idea. Going to put it on my todo list.

Thanks,
Christian.


/Thomas


Christian.

/Thomas


Regards,
Christian.







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