Quoting Francisco Jerez (2020-04-14 20:39:48) > Chris Wilson <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Quoting Chris Wilson (2020-04-14 17:14:23) > >> Try to make RPS dramatically more responsive by shrinking the evaluation > >> intervales by a factor of 100! The issue is as we now park the GPU > >> rapidly upon idling, a short or bursty workload such as the composited > >> desktop never sustains enough work to fill and complete an evaluation > >> window. As such, the frequency we program remains stuck. This was first > >> reported as once boosted, we never relinquished the boost [see commit > >> 21abf0bf168d ("drm/i915/gt: Treat idling as a RPS downclock event")] but > >> it equally applies in the order direction for bursty workloads that > >> *need* low latency, like desktop animations. > >> > >> What we could try is preserve the incomplete EI history across idling, > >> it is not clear whether that would be effective, nor whether the > >> presumption of continuous workloads is accurate. A clearer path seems to > >> treat it as symptomatic that we fail to handle bursty workload with the > >> current EI, and seek to address that by shrinking the EI so the > >> evaluations are run much more often. > >> > >> This will likely entail more frequent interrupts, and by the time we > >> process the interrupt in the bottom half [from inside a worker], the > >> workload on the GPU has changed. To address the changeable nature, in > >> the previous patch we compared the previous complete EI with the > >> interrupt request and only up/down clock if both agree. The impact of > >> asking for, and presumably, receiving more interrupts is still to be > >> determined and mitigations sought. The first idea is to differentiate > >> between up/down responsivity and make upclocking more responsive than > >> downlocking. This should both help thwart jitter on bursty workloads by > >> making it easier to increase than it is to decrease frequencies, and > >> reduce the number of interrupts we would need to process. > > > > Another worry I'd like to raise, is that by reducing the EI we risk > > unstable evaluations. I'm not sure how accurate the HW is, and I worry > > about borderline workloads (if that is possible) but mainly the worry is > > how the HW is sampling. > > > > The other unmentioned unknown is the latency in reprogramming the > > frequency. At what point does it start to become a significant factor? > > I'm presuming the RPS evaluation itself is free, until it has to talk > > across the chip to send an interrupt. > > -Chris > > At least on ICL the problem which this patch and 21abf0bf168d were > working around seems to have to do with RPS interrupt delivery being > inadvertently blocked for extended periods of time. Looking at the GPU > utilization and RPS events on a graph I could see the GPU being stuck at > low frequency without any RPS interrupts firing, for a time interval > orders of magnitude greater than the EI we're theoretically programming > today. IOW it seems like the real problem isn't that our EIs are too > long, but that we're missing a bunch of them. Just stuck a pr_err() into gen11_handle_rps_events(), and momentarily before we were throttled (and so capped at 100% load), interrupts were being delivered: [ 887.521727] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.538039] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.538253] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.538555] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.554731] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.554857] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.555604] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.571373] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.571496] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.571646] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.588199] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.588380] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.588692] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.604718] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.604937] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.621591] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.621755] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.637988] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.638166] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.638803] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.654812] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.655029] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } [ 887.671423] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:10, events:10 } [ 887.671649] gen11_rps_irq_handler: { iir:20, events:20 } That looks within expectations for the short EI settings. So many interrupts is a drag, and I would be tempted to remove the process bottom half. Oh well, I should check how many of those are translated into frequency updates. I just wanted to first check if in the first try I stumbled into the same loss of interrupts issue. -Chris _______________________________________________ Intel-gfx mailing list Intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx