Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 2020-04-18, at 03:26, Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/17/20 9:21 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>
>>> I wish we could squash that indiscriminate “presentations are bad” meme.
>>
>> I wish we could squash the notion that face-to-face meetings should be filled with presentations, with only a small amount of time left for discussion.
> We’ve been through this 500 times before. If somebody reminds people
> that presentations are useful, this scare crow is always cited as the
> inevitable outcome. It’s not, folks, and the point is that we want to
> have the productive presentations and not the unproductive ones (where
> productivity is measured in the progress made in the ensuing
> discussion).
> The fact that chairs sometimes fail to prevent the scary scenario you
> evoke indicates a lack of focus; having to end a discussion when it
> just started to generate interesting results is a serious problem.
> Maybe we need more chair training on agenda setting. And maybe some AD
> coaching.
Yes, the problem isn't that there are bad presentations, but rather that there
is poor time management decisions made. AD coaching is occuring, but
inconsistently, and with different emphasis.
> I’ve seen agenda that didn’t even have planned slot durations in them;
> that has to stop (as well as the fixation on keeping to those
> durations, I might add).
The number of virtual interim meetings that had really bad agendas was fewer,
but there were a number where the agenda was six lines consisting of some
draft names.
No links (etherpad, jabber, conference link), few or no time allocations, no ...
I really am expecting ADs to notice and have a word with those chairs.
> It is much less of a problem to end a meeting early because the agenda
> was kept clean; even more so for online (“virtual”) meetings. With
> good planning, items can also be pushed off the agenda dynamically if
> others have needed more time.
+1
> Yes, being a chair is **difficult**; I’m so happy that I once again
> handed over my WG chairing responsibilities to younger chairs.
:-)
> Instead of re-hashing this age-old thread, I’d rather focus on the new
> tools we have available now. Moving a whole university to digital
> tends to sharpen one’s mind on these.
> (My wife, with her 40 years of university teaching experience, just
> uploaded her first narrated slides this week, and that may indeed be a
> tool we want to embrace.)
So basically a kind of screencast?
{as a technology thought: It seems like it ought to be possible to make every
slide an IFRAME of a video, have no delta frames, and just audio. The result
should be very high fidelity. Even better if we could store the vector
version of the slide (whether PDF or SVG) into the video.}
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