Bob and Benoît, I agree for a long-term plan (but also for a short-term action like Hackathon and leveraging some IETF technologies to DISTRIBUTE -- no centralization -- of private info). The DRIP WG (Drone Remote ID Protocol) has related use cases and technologies (also using Bluetooth BTW) -éric -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 at 20:31 To: John Wroclawski <jtw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx>, IETF <ietf@xxxxxxxx>, Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: COVID-19 contacts tracker (Re: a brief pondering) John, Carsten, > On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:13 AM, John Wroclawski <jtw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > …. > > I think the existence of these things, and the speed they’re moving at, pretty much validates Carsten’s observation that: > >> On Apr 15, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> (1) We are not fast enough. (Some of us are, but as an organization we aren’t.) > Yes, but I think it’s a mistake to think that this is a one time thing and that it will be done anytime soon. We shouldn’t get in the way of what MIT/Google/Apple/etc. are doing in the short term, but I do think there is long term value developing something in the IETF that will prepare for the long term. That has a reasonable balance between tracking for medical vs. political tracking. Until there is a vaccine this will reoccur, and other pandemics will happen. Bob