Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-iesg-nomcom-eligibility-2020-00.txt> (Eligibility for the 2020-2021 Nominating Committee) to Best Current Practice

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Adrian, I accept your amendment; thank you.

Barry

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:55 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> >> If we have to form a recall committee in the period before we have worked
> >> out a long-term solution, I presume the same rules will apply. I think it
> >> would be wise to fill this hole now because if we need it (which we won't)
> >> then we'll need to sort it out in a real hurry.
> >
> > Given that the recall process in BCP 10 explicitly refers to the
> > NomCom eligibility and process, I think that what's important is to be
> > clear that the scope of this document does include anything that's
> > tied to that process.
>
> Thanks. I really appreciate what you're trying to do here.
>
> > So how about this instead?:
> >
> >> Abstract
> >> OLD
> >>    This document only affects the seating of the
> >>    2020-2021 NomCom, and does not set a precedent for the future.
> >
> > NEW
> >   This document only affects the seating of the
> >   2020-2021 NomCom and any rules that relate to the
> >   NomCom process before IETF 108, and does not set a
> >   precedent for the future.
> > END
>
> I have a pedant's concern that the "recall process" is not the "NomCom process".
>
> In your preamble you said "NomCom eligibility and process" and I feel that captures it better, so in the spirit of negotiation, how about...
>    This document only affects the seating of the
>    2020-2021 NomCom and any rules that relate to
>    NomCom eligibility or process before IETF 108, and
>    does not set a precedent for the future.
>
> >> Section 1
> >> OLD
> >>    The 2020-2021 Nominating Committee (NomCom) needs to be formed
> >>    between IETF 107 and IETF 108, and the issue of eligibility of who
> >>    can serve on that NomCom needs clarification: a one-time
> >>    interpretation of the eligibility rules is required for this
> >>    particular exceptional situation, given the tight timeframe for
> >>    seating this year's NomCom.
> >
> > NEW
> >   The 2020-2021 Nominating Committee (NomCom) needs to be formed
> >   between IETF 107 and IETF 108, and the issue of eligibility of who
> >   can serve on that NomCom needs clarification: a one-time
> >   interpretation of the eligibility rules is required for this
> >   particular exceptional situation.  That interpretation will apply
> >   to the seating of that NomCom and to any rules that relate
> >   to the NomCom process before IETF 108.
> > END
>
> Similarly:
> ...and to any rules that relate to NomCom eligibility before IETF 108.
>
> >> Section 3
> >> OLD
> >>    This update is an emergency interpretation of the intent of BCP 10
> >>    for this current exceptional situation only, and applies only to the
> >>    2020-2021 NomCom, which is expected to be seated prior to IETF 108.
> >>    It will explicitly not apply to any future NomCom and does not set
> >>    precedent: another update to BCP 10 will be necessary to address
> >>    future eligibility, as there will be time for proper community work
> >>    on such an update.
> >
> > NEW
> >   This update is an emergency interpretation of the intent of BCP 10
> >   for this current exceptional situation only, and applies only to the
> >   2020-2021 NomCom, which is expected to be seated prior to IETF 108,
> >   and to any rules that relate to the NomCom process before IETF 108.
> >   It will explicitly not apply to any future NomCom and does not set
> >   precedent: another update to BCP 10 will be necessary to address
> >   future eligibility, as there will be time for proper community work
> >   on such an update.
> > END
>
> And again:
> s/relate to the NomCom process/relate to NomCom eligibility/
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>

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