-----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of "otroan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <otroan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> As soon as a significant set of the working group participants were remote, the meetings would "have" to go virtual anyway. We don't have good tools at the moment for combining both a in-room participants and a large set of remotes. A lot easier then to have everyone remote. The above statement was indeed part of arguments that I fully support as I have been in too many webex with 10% physical and 90% remote : this is not effective. And, we need effective meetings to progress our work -éric