RE: Free (as in beer) webex

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https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/ManyCouches

 I thought the whole point of WebRTC was to get rid of need
for native clients of need for conferencing vendors (or at least
 those who could charge per-minute.)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 6:35 PM
> To: Sarah Banks <sbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: IETF Free Beer <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@xxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Free (as in beer) webex
> 
> +1
> 
> IMHO: The blog entries by Cisco as well as of competitors like zoom or
goto-
> meeting are interesting to read not only to find free services, but also
to
> learn more about the increase/change of use of conferencing due to CoVid-
> 1.
> 
> Wrt. client side integration: Given how WebRTC communications uses the
> IETF rtcweb WG standards, it certainly makes sense for IETF'ler to try it
> (own dog food...). AFAIK, all the web conferencing vendors support it now.
> Most newer market competitors may not even have a native client options
> anymore.
> 
> Mileage if its better than "native" clients will of course vary, but in my
> experience the RTCweb option is often also a great fallback when some
> native client option does not work because of incompatibilities of OS
(e.g.:
> linux), OS-versions, audio/video I/O or the like.
> I use it regularily with zoom and webex.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 04:10:57PM -0800, Sarah Banks wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 	Thanks for the note and thanks to Cisco for the community service -
> it's useful, good to know, and I appreciate you letting ietf@ know.
> >
> > 	(No, I don't work for Cisco. No, I'm not buying you beer. But I
> > thought someone should say thanks!)
> >
> > /S
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Just as bit of information for folks about a change in Webex ???
> > >
> > > One of the concerns in the past has been access to local dial in
> > > numbers and cost of Webex. Due to COVID-19 situation, during this
> > > time, Cisco is making webex free for most places it operates and for
> > > meetings up to 100 people. You can find more details and the fine
> > > print at
> > >
> > > https://blog.webex.com/video-conferencing/cisco-webex-supporting-cus
> > > tomers-during-this-unprecedented-time/
> > >
> > > The WebRTC version of webex works in my favorite browsers so no need
> to install anything proprietary.
> > >
> > > Webex is preparing to add multiple billions of minutes of month more
of
> capacity to the existing billions of minutes it currently sees (yah cloud
and
> thanks to whoever designed this scaleable internet thing ).
> > >
> > > I???m only providing this updated information as this tool is often
used
> by IETF WGs. I???m perfectly happy if the IETF chooses to use hangouts, or
> zoom, or MS Teams, meet echo, or whatever you like - I am only providing
> some info about the greatly expanded ability to use a tool we often use.
If
> you find this free tool helpful, great, if you do not, please forgive me
for
> adding one more unhelpful message to this, uh words fail me, mailing list.
> > >
> 
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> tte@xxxxxxxxx





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