https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/ManyCouches I thought the whole point of WebRTC was to get rid of need for native clients of need for conferencing vendors (or at least those who could charge per-minute.) > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 6:35 PM > To: Sarah Banks <sbanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: IETF Free Beer <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@xxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Free (as in beer) webex > > +1 > > IMHO: The blog entries by Cisco as well as of competitors like zoom or goto- > meeting are interesting to read not only to find free services, but also to > learn more about the increase/change of use of conferencing due to CoVid- > 1. > > Wrt. client side integration: Given how WebRTC communications uses the > IETF rtcweb WG standards, it certainly makes sense for IETF'ler to try it > (own dog food...). AFAIK, all the web conferencing vendors support it now. > Most newer market competitors may not even have a native client options > anymore. > > Mileage if its better than "native" clients will of course vary, but in my > experience the RTCweb option is often also a great fallback when some > native client option does not work because of incompatibilities of OS (e.g.: > linux), OS-versions, audio/video I/O or the like. > I use it regularily with zoom and webex. > > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 04:10:57PM -0800, Sarah Banks wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for the note and thanks to Cisco for the community service - > it's useful, good to know, and I appreciate you letting ietf@ know. > > > > (No, I don't work for Cisco. No, I'm not buying you beer. But I > > thought someone should say thanks!) > > > > /S > > > > > On Mar 2, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just as bit of information for folks about a change in Webex ??? > > > > > > One of the concerns in the past has been access to local dial in > > > numbers and cost of Webex. Due to COVID-19 situation, during this > > > time, Cisco is making webex free for most places it operates and for > > > meetings up to 100 people. You can find more details and the fine > > > print at > > > > > > https://blog.webex.com/video-conferencing/cisco-webex-supporting-cus > > > tomers-during-this-unprecedented-time/ > > > > > > The WebRTC version of webex works in my favorite browsers so no need > to install anything proprietary. > > > > > > Webex is preparing to add multiple billions of minutes of month more of > capacity to the existing billions of minutes it currently sees (yah cloud and > thanks to whoever designed this scaleable internet thing ). > > > > > > I???m only providing this updated information as this tool is often used > by IETF WGs. I???m perfectly happy if the IETF chooses to use hangouts, or > zoom, or MS Teams, meet echo, or whatever you like - I am only providing > some info about the greatly expanded ability to use a tool we often use. If > you find this free tool helpful, great, if you do not, please forgive me for > adding one more unhelpful message to this, uh words fail me, mailing list. > > > > > -- > --- > tte@xxxxxxxxx