I've been trying to stay out of this, but... --On Friday, February 28, 2020 13:58 -0500 Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > I have given the application layer view of the transport layer > and below. I really don't care if you think we are doing it > wrong, that is how we is going to continue to do it. You are entitled to your opinion and what you have given is certainly an "application layer view", but some of us who have been doing applications and application-layer design and development for a very long time have a different view both of the transport layer and about the important characteristics of the Internet design. Now you may feel that we are wrong, hopelessly out of date, or both, but that still does not turn your opinion into _the_ application layer view. Similar comments apply to several of the other statements you've made in the last few days. Correctly or incorrectly, many of us see some of the issues for which you apparently have "everyone who disagrees is wrong" positions as involving complex tradeoffs for which the issue is finding the right balance (either generally or to match a particular situation) rather than one of absolutes. Keith's comment about practices that might have many advantages but that also result in single points of failure may be a particularly relevant example. >... best, john
