Re: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver

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On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:29 PM Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jared Mauch <jared@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Feb 26, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Joseph,
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> > The IETF’s current practice of holding three in-person meetings per year is not sustainable. If not today, at some time in the future, the IETF will be forced to hold a fully on-line meeting. This may be motivated by:
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> >       • The next public health issue
> >       • Environmental concerns
> >       • Geopolitical or visa concerns
> >       • Economic concerns
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> > Since we are going to have to learn how to hold an on-line meeting sooner or later, why not now?
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> Ron,
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> I think we should try it as an experiment and add a virtual interim before we’re forced to.  I don’t know what the next N-days until travel to YVR hold, but  as of right now I plan to be there.

I plan to be there as well, as of now.  This situation is changing quickly though and the possibility of getting stuck somewhere is also real.  For some, getting sick is worse, for others, getting stuck is the concern.  However, refunds on travel may only be possible if some regional situation is declared.
 
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> I think organizing something planned even as a test would be interesting though.

I'd like to point out that many many WGs have held virtual interim
meetings - it seems that using these as a datapoint would be a good
first step.
I've participated in a bunch of them, and have found them to be not
very effective -- more effective than not meeting at all, but not by
much.
 
Interesting, I find them to be effective at progressing work and resolving outstanding issues.  They serve as a forcing function, much like a meeting. 
Perhaps there are lessons that can be shared from groups who find the online interims to be effective.

Best regards,
Kathleen


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> I think it’s also important that WGs use their lists efficiently as well.
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Indeed.
W

> - Jared



--
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf



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Best regards,
Kathleen

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