Re: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver

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ietf.org: says:
Our policy regarding the risk to health posed by COVID-19 is that we
will follow public health guidelines for events of this nature, in
particular those of the World Health Organisation and the Public
Health Agency of Canada.

For my side, I stay away from advice from such high level organisations. They are too much away from reality. They receive reports from the ground but they too much tweaking and too much advisory meetings, transforming a lot the message. At that point I really feel they dont know what's really happening.

These organisations are good in their neutrality but the last thing they will ever say is 'I dont know'.

I would rather to this:
- ask the persons I know in person, preferably a person with much
  experience, somebody considered wise.
- in case I dont know, prefer the safe path.

Alex



Le 25/02/2020 à 14:13, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
These are my thoughts:

- has the situation improved since we last talked about this?

- have we absorbed the biggest?

- ...

Alex

Le 25/02/2020 à 00:41, Arleen Elliott a écrit :
Thoughts


-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Further update on
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver From: IETF Executive
Director <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> Date: Feb 24, 2020, 6:34 PM To:
IETF Announcement List <ietf-announce@xxxxxxxx> As IETF 107
Vancouver approaches we thought it would be useful to update you on
our planning around COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and the potential impact
on this meeting.

Before that, it is worth noting that registrations for the meeting
are at a good level [1] and continue to grow in line with
expectations.

Our policy regarding the risk to health posed by COVID-19 is that
we will follow public health guidelines for events of this nature,
in particular those of the World Health Organisation [2] and the
Public Health Agency of Canada [3].  Neither of those bodies
recommend cancelling meetings of this nature but they do recommend
some specific planning [4] and we are following those
recommendations.

Accordingly, the following special measures are being put into
place for IETF 107 in Vancouver.

1. Measures to prevent transmission by surface contact: - We will
provide all in-person participants with hand sanitizer and surface
wipes free of charge. - Surface wipes will be available in multiple
rooms for cleaning any shared equipment or surfaces, such as
microphones and door handles. - We are exploring changes to blue
sheets, including online alternatives, rather than pass a sheet and
pen around. - We’re going to ask that you do not feel obliged to
shake hands with anyone and also do not feel offended if anyone
declines to do so. - Buses for the social event (which is still
being planned) will leave at staggered intervals and also have
wipes available.

2.  Measures for anyone who feels unwell to prevent them spreading
 infection: - We are setting aside a room as an isolation room
supplied with masks and a thermometer for anyone who feels ill
during the meeting. - We are making arrangements with a local
clinic so that we can call a doctor to attend to anyone in
self-imposed isolation to minimise their travel through communal
areas.

3.  Voluntary travel guidelines for travellers from China (the
meeting host, Huawei, is discussing this topic with other companies
based in China): - Only staff from provinces where travel is
allowed and on a whitelist of those who have had their health
monitored for a number of weeks will participate in-person at the
meeting. - Some in-person participants, including the Huawei
employees based in China, plan to arrive 7 days early, monitoring
any symptoms before attending the meeting. - The number of
in-person participants will be reduced to essential travellers with
the rest participating remotely.

4.  (As previously advised) Changes to our cancellation policy -
Anyone who is unable to attend due to government imposed travel restrictions will be eligible for a full refund. - We will continue
with the normal policy of providing a full refund to anyone who is
unable to travel due to visa issues.


We understand that some people are very concerned about the risk to
 health, that some other events have been cancelled or switched to
a remote-only model and that some companies are putting corporate
travel restrictions into place.  However, it remains our view that
there are significant risks in both under-reacting and
over-reacting to this complex and developing situation, and as we
are not epidemiologists or public health experts we will follow the
evidence-based advice of those that are.

Following the same reasoning, we will not be offering full refunds
in the event of someone being unable to travel due to corporate restrictions and the cancellation fee will still apply. Full
details of our registration policy for IETF 107 Vancouver are
available on our website [5].


Finally, we are working on a backup plan for a fully remote meeting
 should we need to cancel the in-person meeting, but there are a
number of logistical challenges to overcome.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
or comments.


[1] https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf107/attendance.py [2]
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 [3]
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection.html


[4] https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1269109/retrieve [5]
https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/ietf107-special-registration-provisions/



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