It was suggested to me privately that using city names might be helpful (although if one has to actually book this stuff you probably already know the translation :) SIN: Singapore BKK: Bangkok (Thailand) NRT: Tokyo ICN: Seoul, Korea Thanks, Chris. > On Feb 16, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Christian Hopps <chopps@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I've read the mtgvenue drafts and they seem to indicate that travel pain should be minimized as much as possible. > > With IETF 109 we will have chosen SE Asia as a destination for the Asia part of 1-1-1 policy for 4 years running. Also troubling there's a pattern of SIN BKK SIN BKK developing. > > The *fastest* flights I can find to BKK involve 24h hours of air travel (airplanes and too short layovers for this type of travel). It is incredibly painful to spend 24-30 hours in airplanes and airports. At least for me (A non-west coast NA based participant) SE Asia is maximizing pain. > > Japan and Korea both seems to be 1/3 less travel for much of NA, and also seemingly no worse or not as bad for much of Europe. > > Could the powers that be please consider changing the SIN,BKK,SIN,... pattern to NRT,ICN,NRT,... or at *minimum* mixing more NRT or ICN in there? > > I think this would benefit a large percentage of IETF participants w/o adding undue pain elsewhere. > > Thanks, > Chris. >