--On Monday, 17 February, 2020 08:28 +1300 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Depending on one's family situation, shifting onto a different > time zone at home may be even more disruptive and painful than > travel. And in fact, virtually impossible to explain to the > rest of the household. > > Yes, I realise that shift workers have to deal with this, but > shift work is a terrible thing anyway. > > Let's not kid ourselves that there is an easy answer here. Brian, In case it wasn't clear from what I wrote, I agree completely. Even without a complicating family situation, it is hard to resist the meetings or other commitments in the middle of the (local time) day when the IETF (or other remote) schedule is locally in the middle of the night. And, as soon as one need to be in both time zones at the same time, remote participation gets tough, maybe even tougher than travel to the meeting. The only real solution is finding means of communication that are insensitive to precise timing and we have, and have tested, one of those -- I believe it is called "email". It does impose a different requirement to which, as Keith has indirectly pointed out, some of us have become resistant in recent years. That is the ability and willingness to write, and read, email messages that actually contain careful analyses of issues rather than adopting "TL;DR" attitudes. best, john
