Hi, I'm speaking wearing my ISOC hat, and just for information so that people can evaluate the implicit analogy in Randy's question. On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:41:14PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > would being on the board of one or both pir and isoc, and be the exec > dir if ietf (paid from pir money), be a conflict? The conclusion in the reviews that the various boards made was that it was not a hard conflict under the rules. That is not to say everyone was completely comfortable and I don't know what would have happened had other events not been going on. Note that it is not the case that the IETF's money all comes from PIR. Not all of the ISOC funding comes from PIR (though of course most of it does), and the fact that the PIR money is filtered through an intermediate organization seems to make this strictly speaking ok under the existing conflict rules. > would being on the board of of both isoc and pir be a conflict in this > messy deal? It's hard to see exactly how, given that the PIR board is appointed and serves at the pleasure of the ISOC board, but it would certainly raise eyebrows. Fortunately, we don't have to deal with that because ISOC has not historically appointed a member of the ISOC Board of Trustees to the PIR Board. (I'm a liaison to the PIR Board but I have neither a vote on the PIR Board nor on the ISOC Board.) Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan President & CEO, Internet Society sullivan@xxxxxxxx +1 416 731 1261