On 15-Sep-19 10:07, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> I have had the impression that, despite dropouts due to volume >>> on the list and other factors, the vast majority of active IETF >>> participants (those who were contributing to focused technical >>> mailings lists such as WG ones and/or coming to meetings and >>> participating in technical work) were still on the IETF list. >> >> I wonder if we could change from an impression to some data? >> >> For example: >> >> (A) How many people* are subscribed to ietf@ ? > > About 1800. > > But as I scan through the list, I see addresses that I know not to be > active any more. And it's pretty much impossible to have any idea of > who actually looks at the messages, and so on. > >> (B) How many people are eligible under the current NomCom rule? >> >> (C) How many people are "active" in some other sense (e.g. have sent mail to *any* IETF list in the past year)? >> >> How many people are in (A) only, in (A) & (B), in (A) & (C), in (B) or (C) but not (A)? > > This all might be interesting, Yes, I think it's interesting in a broader context too. > but I think the real data that we'll be > able to collect as we experiment, and that we'll find useful, is this: > > (α) How many people unsubscribe from the IETF Discussion list after > the Last Call list is active? > > (β) How many people unsubscribe from the Last Call list? > > (γ) How many new subscribers do we get for the two lists over time, > and how do they coordinate? > > You think? Yes, certainly. But cross-checking against ietf-announce (where the Last Calls are sent) also seems relevant. Brian > > -- Barry > >> We coud add >> >> (D) How many people are subscribed to ietf-announce@ >> >> * people = distinct email addresses excluding the + construct. >> >> These data exist if someone in the Secretariat could extract them. >> >> Regards >> Brian >