Hi Michael, > If a registry is created, or an entry is created in a registry, by > an ISE, can an IETF Standards Action document later change the rules > on that registry (or adopt that entry?) > > Perhaps the correct question is, "How can an IETF stream document > adopt an ISE created entry" I think I can write text describing how the ISE will behave: that is, describing the publication process in the Independent Submission Stream. I don't think I can write text (except aspirationally, and aiming for wider consensus) that describes how other streams will behave. The corner case you describe does nominally exist, but is second-order in its rarity. 1. Very few IS documents create registries. 2. Very few IS documents are obsoleted (or taken over) by IETF documents. A short while ago I started a thread with the other stream managers about "crossing the streams" for exactly the case where an IETF document seeks to obsolete an IS document. Hopefully we'll have an opinion to share with the community in the fullness of time - but it is not a worrying or pressing problem, and we have always handled such cases gracefully in the past. Curiously, a case in point (which is in no way a problem) is in hand at the moment as the new generation of Babel documents seek to replace the previous Experimental IS documents. Having Independent Stream work adopted into the IETF and developed there with consensus is a Good Thing. Nothing we do should get in the way of that. So, I think you are right that I should write some warm words about transferring registry "ownership" to the IETF. I do not foresee ever transferring ownership out of the IETF. Best, Adrian -- Adrian Farrel (ISE), rfc-ise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx