In article <MN2PR13MB35825D112CEA4D1071E35C7485D50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you write: >Pete, >Thanks for the pointer. >There are so many very easy messaging Apps, Slack, Wire, etc. why it is mandatary to have Jabber? It's an open IETF standard and there are in fact a lot of clients such as Pidgin, Adium, and Jitsi. I agree that it's a pain that Google now uses mutant XMPP so you can't use Google Hangouts any more.